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Well I got no help although they had the resources. I really don't think
much should be inherited (1) but I've set up a small fund to ensure the boy
gets through as much education as he wants without debt. Yeah it's an
advantage but a small enough one.

(1) though a lot of new enterprises would never have got running without
extended family funding <discuss>

 

I don't disagree with you, or LN at all. Both in the reasons for doing
it, or the benefits of family. To be fair my parents would probably
have offered exactly the same deal if I hadn't been so adamant about
doing things my own way and pointing out the fact they were pretty
much skint with my dad having spent a long time layed off when the
building industry crashed. I'd gladly help out any of them when they
needed it, but it's still mollycodling.

Personally I think being there to *lend* money with no interest is
probably the most productive way to go, but no doubt being a parent
would change my perspective on everything.

 

What - you mean parents wanting to do the best for their kids that
they possibly can at the time? It can't be that obvious to you if you
think wanting your child to leave university without being massively
in debt doesn't count.

 

It's alright for them to tell you what to do, but not for you to tell
your sprog what to do. *sigh*

 

Yes, there are plenty of parents like that chap.

 

I'm not a parent, but I don't think it is. Seems pretty humane if
anything, as long as the sprog appreciates your help.

 

and you are arguing from a position of ignorance.

No, those on your side of the argument are suggesting that paying some
of his fees to reduce the debt he leaves with is molly coddling.

<reminds herself to leave it he's not worth it>

 

molly coddling

Which them?

Where on earth do you get that from what I've posted?

 

The ones who are telling you what to do. I thought that was fairly
obvious.

Read my post again and if it is still nonsensical to you, I can't make
it much clearer.

 

I pay no attention to them.

It is now.

It is clearer. I think I need more coffee.

 

No, they're not. They're arguing that starting your working life with
nothing in the bank, as opposed to starting your working life with a
massive overdraft, means that you're not learning to support yourself
and/or are being mollycoddled. By this criterion most school-leavers
have been mollycoddled.

LN and I view education as a continuum which can be stopped at 16, 18
or 21 years old. You don't - and I'm not clear why.

 

I'll leave that argument then!

My mother bought me a car. Or, as you would put it, "I got mummy to
buy me a car". Is that even worse than getting her to buy me an
education?

I couldn't agree more.

Indeed. But you think parental help with education has to stop at 18.
I don't see why.

 

Just to be sure, is that a general point or aimed at me?

 

I think that's rubbish too! I loved that car - an Austin Healey 100/6
it was. Not just better than sex - when I got it I was still a virgin.

 

Correction: *You* would have. I wouldn't. When I was at Watford College
my parents bought be a bike to commute on. I cared for that bike as
much as I've cared for any that I've bought (which is to say 'not a
lot - they are a means to an end and not an end in themselves').

And that's leaving aside the principle of TANSTAAFL.

Phil.

 

I've never subscribed to that idea on a specific basis, but in a more
general way, yes. I feel that appreciate the things I have, or more
importantly the ability to have anything that I want, a lot more now,
I'm sure, than if I'd always been in that position. But none of the
individual things I have, or could have, are specifically more
important.

I want to know if it helped him in his quest.

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No - that was the AH 3000 that came a bit later (with a Dellow Mk II
in between).

 

Thought I'd check before I threw the rattle at your head.

Sorry you feel the need to do the 'just fishing' line.

 

Up to that point it was an assessment of the commentators in the
thread rather than a sweeping generalisation of everyone's opinion.

He still has accomodation, food, books, social life etc to fund. He
will need to find a job, same as he did last year when there was
something he wanted to save up for.

When eldest was 16 I offered the CBT cost but he'd have to fund the
rest, he turned it down on the grounds his push bike was cheaper to
run and he'd rather put his money towards other things.

So you helped her out once you were sure she was responsible, able to
budget etc - much as I am with mine.

Oh yes

I don't think it does from the above. It's just we choose different
ways to help our offspring. Did yours go/plan to go to university?

 

<waves>
The scrapping of the student grant system was the biggest blunder of any
government in the area of tertiary education. Stupid and short-sighted.
Along with hiking up fees massively to overseas students.
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