[QUOTE] Really, no. Don't you remember MSN's origins? MS thought they could both side-step the popularisation of the Internet and also get ahead of existing online services such as AOL and Compuserve etc (this is circa 1993 or so, IIRC). FFS, I had a working PPP connection on my old Amiga *years* before there was a stable version of Winsock (and even that wasn't an official MS product). well, I do. I even (co) wrote a book about it ;-) aha - but VMS was decades ahead of it's time, you see...[/QUOTE] Fuck yeah. They had proper clustering working. Cluster file systems, distributed file locking, ACL's back in the early 90's. Things Mr Torvalds is only just getting around to grafting into his (reinvented) OS .... Paul.