Fuel Filter installation

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by novascroller, May 7, 2007.

  1. novascroller

    novascroller Guest

    There's only about 4" between the petcock on my cm450 and the carb
    fuel intake. i bought a filter that's about 2" long and i'm having
    trouble getting it to fit without kinking the line. am i correct in
    assuming that since it's gravity fed that i don't want the line
    running uphill at any time?? any suggestions on how i can
    get the filter to fit or are there smaller ones available??
     
    novascroller, May 7, 2007
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    Ian Singer Guest

    Even if you drop the fuel line in a U shape below the carb it will still
    raise up to the carb and work as fuids seek their own level.

    Ian Singer

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  3. No

    Think syphons.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 7, 2007
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  4. They do. In fuel taps.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 7, 2007
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  5. Well, yeah, as B12 says, you can't have a massive loop and expect it to
    work, but I've frequently had a small loop below the carb and never had
    a problem.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 7, 2007
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    Ian Singer Guest


    If the loop acts like a syphon then both legs will attempt to level off
    at the same level. That level will actually be gas tank level, and so it
    will be applying a slight pressure to the carbs which are lower than the
    tank. It is not a real syphon though as the tank level is at
    atmosphere, plus a slight pressurization from the weight of the fuel in
    the tank, and the other leg to the carb is running at a negative
    pressure when the engine is running. if the syphon is full why would
    there be any problem getting fuel to the carb? Now an inline filter
    could add too much restriction that it would not work.

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    Ian Singer, May 7, 2007
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  7. This is true.

    Mea culpa.

    But it'll still flow fuel, which is the main thing.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 7, 2007
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  8. I've never had carb float bowls full of anything, except petrol. Stale
    or otherwise.

    The closest I ever got was on an old BMW airhead boxer, whose red lead
    paint (inside the tank) was starting to go, and was turning into a brown
    sludge, but I had in-line filters on that bike and all it did was block
    those.

    I really don't see there's much of a problem here. I suppose there is
    some stuff that's fine enough to get through the filters on fuel taps on
    old-style bikes, but it's only grief on bikes that are really ancient or
    have been standing for years, in my experience.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 7, 2007
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  9. Actually, a lot of FI systems bleed fuel, in small amounts, into the
    cylinders in order to avoid a jerky take-up when power is re-applied, so
    this is wrong.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 8, 2007
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    Wudsracer Guest



    About 5 years ago, I was able to get Plastonics (makers of
    "Visu-filters") to make a right angle fuel filter.
    GasGas enduro bikes have a short distance from the petcock outlet to
    the carb inlet, and they are at a right angle to each other.

    I spent the whole three days of the Indianapolis Powersports Expo
    visiting with different filter manufacturers and promoting my idea of
    the right angle filter.

    Three months later, a fellow from Plastonics called the shop and told
    me that they were sending me a sample; and wanted my input.

    Here is the result:
    http://www.rockymountainatv.com/viewLargerImage.do?prodImage=v/vis_07_in_lin_fue_fil.jpg

    It is exactly what I asked for.
    They make them with screen inside the housing and also one with a
    bronze/ceramic unit inside.
    They are perfect for my application.
     
    Wudsracer, May 8, 2007
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