Fuel prices

That would be a great idea IF the people stuck to that plan
But people being people and always in a hurry, they will fill up where they think
they are getting a good deal, which we all know in fact, that they are not.
The spokesman who said that fuel prices will reach $3.00 in a decade was Caltex and
of course Woolworths or Safeway petrol outlets are Caltex.
It appears that Safeway/ Woolworths/Caltex are only telling us that they are going to
raise prices and there is nothing we can do about it, unless,
your idea comes into play.
Another interesting point is the sign Safeway have about saving 8 cents a litre by
buying something in the pay booth shop where the prices are elevated to almost twice
normal and they are only trying to suck you into buying more stuff which you normally
wouldn't buy or need

 

You bought a Prius to save money? Good lord, you really got sucked in,
didn't you. You got any idea how much fuel you can buy for the extra $20K?
Even at $3 a litre? Umm... 20,000 kms costs me $3000 in fuel, with a Prius I
might save a third of that, so in 21 years I'll be ahead. Woohoo! I wonder
how many sets of batteries I'll have to replace in 20 years.

Theo

 

A common argument. How did we ever survive with 40 hp VWs and 60 hp Holdens?
These days you need at least 200 hp to drive on the same roads, at slower
speeds.

Theo

 

Well, he is from aus.cars.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Ahh, sorry, didn't notice the Xposting. Hmm, so it was George opened the
gate.

Theo
Glenfiddick?

 

I must say that I was impressed with the Prius that I drove for a
week. Performance was on a par with or better than most other small
cars, and fuel usage was on a par with my 1200RT. I wouldn't hesitate
to drive one cross country to anywhere in Australia. They operate via
very clever use of old and tested technology tied together with
powerful computers - fascinating really.
As to ultimate economy and effect on the environment, there's
probably a way to go yet. As a first step they are impressive though,
IMO.

 

You omitted:
I will continue being an ignorant fuckhead and a mannerless cretin.
I am too stupid to accept advice.

 

Yes that is correct, and of course the same can be said about any
product by any seller. You do understand George that there is no
central price fixing department in the government ?Maccas can sell you
a burger at any price they choose, Coca Cola can set any price they
wish for their liquid bitumen by-product, British-American Tobacco can
choose any price they wish for your Winfield Reds (1). If you don't
like the price, then you either buy a substitute (HungryJacks burger,
Pepsi, Peter Jackson) or you don't buy any at all.

It's supply and demand stupid-George, a seller chooses a price, and
you choose whether you want to buy it at that price. If no one buys
any then the price will drop if the seller wants to actually sell
some, if the seller thinks they can make more money by bumping up the
price then they can choose to do so and hope they don't lose their
customers to the competition.

Price fixing by collusion across an industry is illegal, choosing a
price isn't.

JL
1 Just using the products I'm sure you're buying regularly

 

Simplistic nonsense!

You don't say where you are, but in all likelihood the same refinery
(read oil company) will supply the entire region, irrespective of the
name on the bowser. That's how it works in almost every location in
the country.

Hence, it won't matter a shit which outlets you boycott the effect on
the supplier (read oil company) will be zilch.

They'll probably even subsidise the franchisee(s) you choose to
boycott (eg, forgo the rent on those particular outlets)... and most
likely jack up the price at all other outlets to cover it. )

 

except that coles or woolworths are not going to be happy and their
associated petrol co may be unhappy enough to lower prices. If they
closed govt would not be happy [less competition].

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:47:22 -0000

"where a sports car's next to useless
running riverbeds and cattle grids
we drove a van from 1963"

Zebee

 

And like all illegal activities, its very illegality prevents people
from indulging in it.

N/

 

Is a set of batteries on a Prius really $12,000?

Boxer

 

I find that 350HP is very handy in city traffic.

Boxer

 

Of coarse I opened the fucking gate and I will leave it open for anyone else who
wants to leave

 

That lets you out Clem, have never seen you give one bit of good advice

 

Too true. The prices differ between the 'express' one here and the
'proper restaurant' under 5km from it as the crow flies.

 

That would be because you don't read or participate in threads about actual
motorcycles Stupid-George.
The only advice I give in your moronic threads are "please stop" and let's
face it; if you had the brains to understand what good advice that was you
wouldn't be ... well... you.

 

Counts on fingers ........ takes shoes off..... OK if I don't buy any
batteries I'l l be ahead in ...umm.... about 20 years and a day.
$20K extra to recoup cost based on Prius cost over Camry.

No idea of when you have to replace the batteries or their cost, but I'll
bet it's not 20 years, or cheap.

Here we go. They cost $4500 now and $2000 next year, but will last forever.
How long does the battery last in the Prius, and how much will it cost to
replace?
The Prius battery is designed to last the lifetime of the vehicle and
considering that the Prius is designed to be as durable as any other Toyota,
and considering Toyota’s reputation, that is a pretty long time. Toyota have
lab data showing the Prius battery can do 290,000km of normal driving with
absolutely no degradation of the battery’s performance. To give some real
life examples, there is a Taxi driver from British Columbia, Jatinder
Parhar, who has done over 410,000km in his Prius Taxi and has had to do
nothing to his Prius other than standard servicing. (click to read more
here). Toyota has sold over 500,000 Generation II and III Prius worldwide
and say they have never had to supply a battery pack for replacement due to
wear and tear. (click here to read Toyota Press release). Given all this,
the price of a replacement battery is probably irrelevant, however in the
extremely unlikely event you needed to replace the battery in your Prius,
current cost, at time of writing (Feb 2008), is NZ$4500.00 for a Generation
II Prius and NZ$3150 for a Generation III Prius. However this is coming down
all the time. When we first looked into this at 3 years ago the battery
packs were priced at $7000 each. We believe the price will fall to around
$2000 within a year or so given the increased production of Hybrid Vehicles
using this type of battery. For piece of mind every Toyota Prius brought
from The Clean Green Car Company is covered by a 2 year, unlimited km Hybrid
Car Warranty that includes cover for the battery pack. [back to top]


OTOH from a non Toyota site
Whether the delay is real or not, it appears that the battery problems are
plenty real. Previously, Toyota set a goal of reducing the size of the
battery pack in the next Prius by 50 percent, while also increasing its
efficiency.

The delay is apparently to give Toyota engineers time to retro-fit the new
Prius design with the old-style nickel metal hydride batteries they’d hoped
to be rid of. At least initially, the new Prius will still have nickel metal
hydride batteries, Nikkan Kogyo reported. Lithium ion power is not ready for
prime time (remember all the exploding laptop batteries made of the same
substance?). Lithium ion gets unstable under extreme pressure - apparently
too unstable for automotive use at this stage of its development.

The apparent failure of Toyota, and its development partners, to come up
with a viable next generation battery pack is a serious setback. Will its
competitors use this to try to seize a competitive advantage? Calling
Chevrolet: Where is the Volt?

Theo

 

Of course, that's why my son is spending $155K+ on a 360Kw C63AMG, it
accelerates to 100 nearly as fast as my Norge, still the same at 160. After
that the Merc pulls away.

Theo