Fuel prices

All true and no argument with what i snipped for brevity as well...but...

<shrug> the dangerous assumption is that price rises for fuel will be
steady and will take a long time to increase 10fold - both of those
assumptions are on shaky grounds. We could just as easily be paying $30
a litre in 10 years as $1.80(small increases at inflation rate) or
3.00(increase slightly above inflationie one price jump plus inflation).

I would suggest the price of juice in 10 years time is likely to be well
above $3 but lower than $30 - in that scenario petrol only and/or poor
mpg vehicles will devalue very quickly.

Note the REAL cost of petrol fell between the mid 80's and mid 90's and
only rose quite slowly until the early 2000s when India and China
massively increased their consumption - hence the you have to look at
the devaluation rates that occurred to gas guzzlers in the late 70's
early 80's and apply that to anything that isn't a fuel miser (hybrid or
not)

JL

 

Oh you mass debater you Geoff ! What a lovely little twist in the tail.

JL
(we've had the HP vs torque debate on here but baiting auscars with
pre-prepared ammo - noice!)

 

Yeah except they're the only one on the emmissions list that give people
lung cancer. Slightly more directly significant than acid rain (sulphur
dioxide and NO2) although the big picture is still ugly either way.

Bullshit you are !

JL
(thinking about getting a diesel suv just to claim i'm a green eco
warrior in the best GS manner ;-P )

 

*shrug*

Just about everything manmade causes cancer or something else, I'll be
happy to drive fuel cell vehicles if they get them working
economically... water vapour seems like a good pollutant.

Until them the carcinogens that petrol cars spew out (since we no longer
have lead in the the fuel) vs the carcinogens that diesel cars spew out
seems pretty much of a draw.

Of course I'll listen... how else can I argue with people

I had one of those... maybe I should go and buy a B180CDi ;-)


G-S

 

*gasp*

Why... baiting?

I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about


G-S

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:11:04 +1100

Yup. Last Frontier. It's on the compilation
http://store.countrymusic.com.au/store/item.inetstore?id=1818

Zebee

 

You probably could have googled the answer yourself quicker than it took
to type your reply

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

Touched a nerve, did I?

I really don't think you'll find too many 'Bogans'in my town, lol

Interesting that you speak of 'Bogans' as though they are a separate
demographic from yourself as well...

Oh, and for clarification - I was referring to all Falcodores of any
age, especially the likes of FPVs etc.
Bogan is a state of mind and poverty is not necessarily a part of the
package.

 

I know this thread has slowed down... but I find myself wondering how
you explain the diesel i30 Hyundai being awarded not only Carsguide Car
of the Year but more importantly Carsguide GREEN Car of the year?


G-S

 

i run my diesel car on used cooking oil its free so i think diesels win
can,t wait for a diesel bike

 

cooking oil is carbon neutral also

 

I don't know about John, but I would explain it in the same way I would
explain the Leyland P-76 and JB Camira (amongst other notables) being named
Wheels "Car of the Year", and that is that most motoring journo's wouldn't
know the difference between dog shit and Irish Stew if you sat them down and
forced fed both to them.

 

aus.cars,aus.motorcycles

There is a difference?

 

I don't have any

and yet here you are complaining about all the Falcodore owners in "your
Neck Of The Woods"

maybe your idea of what a bogan is differs from mine huh?

I don't believe I mentioned anything socio-economic standings


Kev

 

Sure but i inconvenienced more electrons this way ;-)

JL

 

Bollocks and you know it, I even provided you links last time. Petrol
engines aren't spewing carcinogens unless they are so badly out of
tune they can barely run, EVERY diesel engine, even a brand new one is
spewing carcinogenic particulates, that's not a draw unless you start
trying to count on the fact there are less diesel engines in total
than seriously clapped out cars (may be true at a pinch, although pink
slips are supposed to prevent it).

Well I guess waiting for the other party to stop talking so you can
continue your monologue counts as listening.

JL
(pot kettle etc)

 

Most people woulen't eat Irish Stew even if you tortured them!


G-S

 

That *is* the case down here though, and Victoria doesn't have pink
slips. [1]


G-S

[1] I suggest visiting boganville Victoria one time and sitting in a
traffic jam (you can enjoy the ongoing display of non working brake
lights at the same time

 

How very.... pedestrian...


G-S

 

The 149, 2.5L, claimed 100 hp.

Theo