[QUOTE] [QUOTE="Simian"] [1] A lot of my childhood was spent eating things cooked by the sort of person that, on Sundays, put the vegetables on to boil at the same time the roast went in the oven.[/QUOTE] A vegetable isn't cooked unless it can be sucked through the teeth.[/QUOTE] You've eaten my mothers cooking too eh? Although she did improve - she went straight from that to the 'everything most be brown/wholegrain/raw' stage. I don't know which one was worse. Now she doesn't have 6 mouths to feed in a short space of time her cooking has improved immensely. Phil.