Garage Defender.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by danny_deever2000, Oct 31, 2005.

  1. danny_deever2000, Oct 31, 2005
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  2. danny_deever2000

    dwb Guest

    I have one of those - it's worked so far, though I don't for a minute think
    it's indesructible.

    Not having one?
    Of course it is - it's all relative (as I'm sure you were told only
    recently) - if someone starts using a jack hammer on your drive way are you
    neighbours going to ask why? If not, then yes it's very easy.

    FWIW mine is set into a very large amount of concrete that's under the
    paving - you'd have to busy for quite awhile. Much easier (IMO) to angle
    grind it off.

    But luckily I live an area would people would notice this and question it.

    YMMV.
     
    dwb, Oct 31, 2005
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  3. Yeah. My initial thought is that a good tow rope to the back of a
    stolen land rover and you could tear it out in about 10 seconds.
    However you'd make a bit of noise.
    I mean is it easy for *me* to drill into concrete to install. Will my
    1800 watt Blakc and Decker be man enough?
     
    danny_deever2000, Oct 31, 2005
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  4. danny_deever2000

    Pip Guest

    There's only one way to tell. You can always go hire a proper SDS
    hammer if your B&D chokes on it.
     
    Pip, Oct 31, 2005
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  5. danny_deever2000

    dwb Guest

    There is a much easier way of getting in using a land rover, but anyway.

    Mine was professionally fitted though and TBH if you DID rip it out with a
    Landy (and I'm sure you could) you'd have quite a hard time getting the bike
    out of the garage as the resultant hole in the driveway would be quite
    impressive (the bloke lifted quite a lot of paving and filled it up with
    cement :) ).
    What you want is a wedge type finisih - you want the bottom to be thicker
    than the top as this means it will resist being pulled out.

    The whole job including the unit cost me around £75 - much easier than doing
    it myself :)

    I used Peak Motorcycle Security (Google for it) - highly recommended and
    they will call out to anywhere in the UK I believe - and they turned up at
    approximatley the time they said they would.
     
    dwb, Oct 31, 2005
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  6. danny_deever2000

    gomez Guest

    I passed over the Garage Defender solution as being too much like a
    red rag to a bull and went for the more subtle approach of having two
    mortice locks, one one each side low down, securing the bottom of the
    metal garage door into the metal frame. ERA are the only ones I could
    find that are made for the job and I got them from Southampton Locks.
    The pair work off the same key.
     
    gomez, Oct 31, 2005
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  7. I don't even bother with a lock. Disconnected the alarm years ago.

    Anybody want to buy a disc lock, a U lock and 2 FOAD chains?

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    Paul Carmichael, Oct 31, 2005
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  8. danny_deever2000

    SP Guest

    Yes, but different types of drill bits do different jobs. You want a
    drill bit that is capable of drilling through concrete as opposed to
    wood. Your local tool supplier should be able to furnish you with the
    correct bit.

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    SP, Oct 31, 2005
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  9. danny_deever2000

    SP Guest

    This site should help you in obtaining the correct drill bit for the job

    http://www.diydata.com/tool/drillbits/drillbits.htm

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  10. danny_deever2000

    sweller Guest

    I've got a ground anchor that needs drilling into position on a brick
    wall [1].

    The rawl bolts need 16mm x 90mm holes and as I know my little cordless
    Elu isn't going to cope what type of drill should I hire? Can I hire
    bits as well?


    [1] It's the only option for fitting and better than nothing.
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/boltdownarea.jpg
     
    sweller, Nov 1, 2005
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  11. danny_deever2000

    darsy Guest

    oops.

    When I bought the anchor, I also bought a 16mm masonary drill[1]. I'll
    see if I can find it.

    [1] having worked for a while in CNC precision engineering[2] I was
    taught to call what you call a "bit" a "drill", and what you call a
    "drill" a "drilling machine".
    [2] bet you'd never have guessed, eh?
     
    darsy, Nov 1, 2005
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  12. danny_deever2000

    sweller Guest

    I was taught, during my apprenticeship in light engineering, to call it
    what you like so long as the grumpy old fucker knows what you're on about
    then things will be fine.

    It still stands I see.
     
    sweller, Nov 1, 2005
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  13. danny_deever2000

    Pip Guest

    Check with your local HSS Hire shop. There's 4 around your place.
    They'll recommend once you describe the job, and I believe they do
    hire suitable drills/bits/ammunition too.
    The bricks look like engineering bricks, which is a Good Thing. Go as
    low down the wall as you can and remain comfortable with access to
    your anchor. Spread the holes across as many bricks as poss to
    obviate splitting and keep away from (weak) mortar joints.
     
    Pip, Nov 1, 2005
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  14. danny_deever2000

    darsy Guest

    indeed.

    I found the thing anyway; do you want it - it's a Rawlplug "Mason
    Master" (whatever). Are you going to Dodger's drinks on Friday?
     
    darsy, Nov 1, 2005
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  15. danny_deever2000

    Salad Dodger Guest

    They're not "my" drinks. Let's get that clear from the off.

    I'm going to the pub, because I can, for a change, and wondered if
    anyone fancied popping along so I don't look like a right Billy no
    Mates sat there on me own.

    Have we decided on a venue, yet?
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  16. danny_deever2000

    darsy Guest

    Well, you suggested the date.
    I thought that wasn't up for negotation - some place down near the
    Tower?

    If we do have a say, somewhere closer to either St.Pauls, Bank or
    Liverpool St. for me...
     
    darsy, Nov 1, 2005
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  17. danny_deever2000

    zymurgy Guest

    Borrow mine. I've even got a 16mm bit.

    HTH

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Nov 1, 2005
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  18. danny_deever2000

    sweller Guest

    How far are you from me (Brighton)? I've just been quoted £25 to hire
    one, which for four holes is a bit much.
     
    sweller, Nov 1, 2005
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  19. danny_deever2000

    MikeH Guest

    Drill more holes then.
     
    MikeH, Nov 1, 2005
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  20. danny_deever2000

    Salad Dodger Guest

    Fair do's.
    It's always up for negotiation.
    Looks like only you and me are bothered.
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    Salad Dodger, Nov 1, 2005
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