Garage Night video: Suspension overhaul starts with Dremel on a lathe

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Waz, Feb 11, 2010.

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    Waz Guest

    Waz, Feb 11, 2010
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    Waz Guest

    Nope, it's the kind of job that tapered rollers are for - seems to me
    that the load is being spread over a lot more bearing surface, ie the
    full height of each cylindrical roller. With ball bearings you
    wouldn't have that.
     
    Waz, Feb 11, 2010
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    paul c Guest

    Thanks for posting. Very enjoyable videos, good luck on the rallies.

    (In the bead breaking episode I couldn't quite make out what the wheel
    was laying on but I liked the trick with the old garden hose.)
     
    paul c, Feb 12, 2010
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    Waz Guest

    I'm not an engineer but it seems to me that the much of the force
    going through the steering shaft are going to be trying to rock it,
    rather than pushing it up and down, so when the shaft is putting force
    is on one side of the bottom bearing, it's going to be on the 180
    degree opposite side of the top bearing. So the forces will be roughly
    perpendicular to the bearing surfaces, and the surface of the bearing
    race that's pressed into the steering head, and that's why a tapered
    bearing is used.

    In summary I think the loads _are_ roughly perpendicular to the roller
    surfaces. But I'm not an expert.
     
    Waz, Feb 12, 2010
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    Waz Guest

    The wheel was lying on a piece of old rag.

    My top tip with tyre changing/tube changing/puncture repair is when
    levering the tyre back onto the rim, put something under the hub to
    raise it off the ground about four inches. When you're trying to lever
    the last bit of tyre back over the rim you can push the lever right
    down, deforming the tyre so it drags the last few inches of bead over
    the rim.
     
    Waz, Feb 12, 2010
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    paul c Guest

    Thanks. My 'top tip' is to make sure the opposite bead is in the centre
    of the rim, away from the sides of the rim, much less muscle needed that
    way. Some people don't do that and conclude they need a machine to mount
    a tire. Second one is what some m/c dealers around here forget, listen
    for two pops when setting beads. Suspect these points apply to tyres as
    well!
     
    paul c, Feb 12, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    I you remember how to get ahold of me, I'd like the make and item
    number of that bead breaker. 8^) It could come in handy...
     
    S'mee, Feb 13, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    <thinks, tap, tap, tap>

    Yep I agree with you...
     
    S'mee, Feb 13, 2010
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    Waz Guest

    Awww shucks, thanks. We try to make something we'd want to watch
    ourselves to get the practical info required - rather than trying to
    mimic TV.

    Waz
    http://www.garagenight.tv
     
    Waz, Feb 13, 2010
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    Waz Guest

    Waz, Feb 13, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    Too chicken for rebuilding spoked wheels...for now. I've a set of old
    Suzuki T-500 rims that don't need a thing done except polish up the
    spokes and rims...I'll leave the patina on the hubs. 8^)
     
    S'mee, Feb 14, 2010
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    Waz Guest

    Bolt croppers are not a bad idea - as long as you don't point the
    nipple end at yourself, anyone you love or things you don't want to
    smash.

    As Richard mentioned in one of our episodes, when you cut the spokes
    the nipple ends can come out 'like bullets' depending on the spoke
    tension.

    We are on the lookout for a new calendar - do you reckon the Pirelli
    people would send us one?

    Waz
    http://www.garagenight.tv
     
    Waz, Feb 14, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    That would be interesting. I make no promises...I'm already commited
    to a trip to seattle in july to watch the Red Sox beat the Mariners.
    8^)
    and thus driving archeologist batty trying to figure out what was
    going on. 8^)
     
    S'mee, Feb 14, 2010
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    ` Guest

    Why don't you just dig a hole in your garage floor and bury that
    carcass?

    Be careful you don't disturb the remains of your former goatse lovers,
    though...
     
    `, Feb 15, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    gee now krusty kritter/gael is stalking me here...**** off you old
    fake. You couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were
    printed on the bottom...you are NOTHING more than a cut and paste
    thief masqarading <sic> as a knowledgable person...only thing you know
    is how to start trouble you aren't man enough to finish.
     
    S'mee, Feb 15, 2010
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    ` Guest

    When you turn *every* thread into a tale about your own situation,
    people are naturally going to wonder about what's wrong with you.

    If you're looking for a pat on the head (or a pat on the ass), you're
    talking to the wrong dude. See Four-eyed Juicy Fruit for the polyamory
    you so desperately desire.
     
    `, Feb 15, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    Likely the only indications of oil they'd find would be fossilized
    bacteria that fed on oil. 8^) If you really want to see them squirm
    let'em find a Dirt Squirt in a Indian badged frame with a rear
    sprocket just an inch or two smaller than the rim.

    8^) BTST one.
     
    S'mee, Feb 15, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    aww, poor baby. he's upset I told the truth about him.
     
    S'mee, Feb 15, 2010
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  19. Yes.

    First, OE ball bearing races are more expensive (or they were when I
    last bought a set) although you could source the balls for pennies from
    a bearing supplier, and secondly, taper rollers (again, in my
    experience) last longer.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 17, 2010
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