Gatso fine - unlicensed rider!

Still not impressed. Sorry.

 

Me neither I might demand a refund.

 

Great, innit. Do you think we should write a bot to reply "WARNING:
This poster knows nothing about whatever he's posted" to each of his
postings?

Heh.
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\`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3
`\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2
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I thought 'flash' *was* a bot

Anyway when a person asks a question it implies that they don't know the
answer. So what would the purpose be of writing a bot that states the
obvious other than wasting precious internet bandwidth?

*plonk*

Ah I see. A sycophant.

 

After the triumph of your flag ettiquet posting?

 

Oooh, look Ma, a stalker.

You never did say how many merchant ships you've served on, to gain
this wonderful knowledge you claim. Let me make one thing clear to you
right now - you're wrong. You can do as many web searches as you like
and you'll still not find anything to successfully back up your
assertions, so just stop fucking digging, you tedious twat.

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..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
\`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3
`\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2
`\|/`
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None, I just happened to know the answer.

 

IIRC the NIP has to arrive within 14 days otherwise it's no longer
legally binding.

 

Has to be *issued* within 14 days. If it never arrives the police can
just say it was issued 7 days after the flashes but it got lost in the
post.

 

Two options

a) pay the fine and hope no one notices

b) He could not reply at all to the NIP, S172 notice. This would
probably result in a conviction for failing to identify the driver (3
points & prob £250 fine) (gatso photo would not be good enought to ID
him, and he cannot be forced to take the stand). It's worse than
being convicted for speeding, but not than speeding plus no insurance
etc. As he would have not admitted to riding his lack of
license/insurance should not be an issue.

I suggest he takes a look at the fightback forums on www.pepipoo.com.
They will also recommend specialist solicitors.

Jim

 

Great idea. This is the the least risky solution.

 

Just wait till he tries to insure a vehicle with a non-disclosure code
on his licence (MS30?) and finds the penalty is akin to drink driving.

Look ma - it's a fuckwit feeding frenzy.

 

Pip says...

MS90. I have one and the Inscos don't like them at all.

--
Lozzo
Track pixie
GSX-R1000 K1
I haven't lost my mind, it's
backed up to a floppy disc
that's around here somewhere.

 

That's the puppy. Fuckers.

 

Yes that does actually make more sense.

What would happen if it did *really* get lost in the post? Would you end
up going to court because Royal Mail fucked up?

 

Just to clarify a NIP and S172 request are different documents
(although are often combined into one). For the NIP part to be valid
it must be posted by first class post (or better) so that it would be
normally be expected to arrive in 14 days or less i.e. posted on the
13th is OK. This only applies to the first NIP sent to the registered
keeper (at the address on the DVLA database at the time of the
offence - if you didn't get a NIP later because you moved house on
the day of the offence the >14 days doesn't matter).

The S172 request to name the driver is valid irrespective of whether
the NIP is valid or not. I.e. if the NIP arrives late you can't be
done for speeding, but you still (in theory) need to name the driver
to avoid being done for the S172

There maybe a grain of truth in the above. I think where a S172 is
sent by first class post it is a 'rebuttable presumption' that the
S172 was served. If you have the balls/credibility to rebut this
presumption and swear under oath that you never received it (bearing
in mind that a perjury conviction will result in a prison sentence)
then you should (and some apparently have) got off. I think this
usually works where someone has unknowingly been convicted under s172
and applies to the court for it to be re-tried - its usually too
late (> 6 months from the offence) to then issue a summons for
speeding.

Jim

 

A quick look around the web confirms this.

Yes. A rather twatish post with the perspective of five mins web based
research.

 

What a load of total bollocks.

 

More bollocks.

 

"The UK learner motorcycle specification is an engine size of up to
125cc and a power output of 11kw (14.6bhp)."

Yep. Engine size AND power not just power.