[QUOTE="Bear"] I know all that, but does DD stuff /really/ stay on your license for longer? I'd like an answer from someone who actually /knows/, as opposed to someone who's guessing. [/QUOTE] The points count towards the totting up for the usual 12 points in three years and you're out. So Drunk in Charge could get you ten points *BUT* no ban. Meant I had to be *REALLY* good boy for three years because any infringement would have got me an auto 12 month ban under the totting up scheme. They stayed on the licence for ten years. IF I had copped for another DD code in that ten years I would be treated as *Habitual* by the magistrate and punishment is increased. Third *over the limit* got matey boy a two year ban with a full retest at the end, points on his licence for all three offences still showing. The shame of a thirty year criminal history. But to answer the question, Yes DD stuff remains on your licence for ten years from date of conviction. Dave