Gatso: more fines, more deaths shocker

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by wessie, Apr 26, 2005.

  1. wessie

    wessie Guest

    N Wales: 70% rise in tickets issued, 200 a day, £3.4M

    Deaths: 59 in 2004, 49 in 2003

    Comedy comments from Arrive Alive

    "People are killing themselves on roads we're not targeting,"

    "Nobody makes any money out of this,"
    wessie, Apr 26, 2005
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  2. wessie wrote
    Is North Wales a particularly hazardous place to ride or is this one of
    those figures skewed by Mid Life Crisis things? I mean, if you took the
    Darwin Nominees out of the equation would their graph more or less be
    the same as round here?
    steve auvache, Apr 26, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    They'll run out of roads/road users eventually.
    dwb, Apr 26, 2005
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    There's probably some truth in that.
    Where everyone used to enjoy decent A roads they are now still going for
    rides round wales but are moving to crappier minor roads as they know there
    are no cameras. Trouble is these roads have worse surfaces , big brick walls
    at the edge , and random tractors and sheep shit.


    Hermes: "We can't afford that! Especially not Zoidberg!"
    Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!"
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 26, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    The realm of the big trailie - soon to be spoiled by the sounds of it
    Krusty, Apr 26, 2005
  6. wessie

    SP Guest

    Last year, 59 people were killed in North Wales, compared to 49 in
    2003. However, on those roads with speed cameras, the number of
    fatalities remained at 12 in each year.

    <jump a paragraph>

    With reference to safety cameras we've identified roads that are high
    risk so we're seeing a decrease.

    Eh? Looks fairly static to me.

    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
    BONY#54P BOB#18
    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
    SP, Apr 26, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    In other news, over 5000 people will die from infections they contract
    in hospitals this year - far more than will die on the roads. But
    "speed kills", so that's ok then.
    Krusty, Apr 26, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    Is it cheaper to deal with a fatality in a hospital than an RTA?

    Maybe they should start fining people for having a disease with too many

    "Now sir, do you know how many times you were blowing your nose?"
    dwb, Apr 26, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    I would think so. The body's already in the right place, & no pesky
    investigations are required, not to mention insurance costs, cleaning
    blood off the road etc.
    Don't give them ideas ffs.
    Krusty, Apr 26, 2005
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    Hooligan Guest

    "The latest figures suggest on average around 200 drivers were caught
    breaking the speed limit every day last month."

    Really, though, if this many people are breaking the law, *surely*
    someone must begin to look at whether the law needs changing.

    Oh, silly me.

    John (jsp)

    SV 650
    Black it is
    And Naked
    Hooligan, Apr 26, 2005
  11. wessie

    Hooligan Guest

    Are suggesting there's a preponderence of bikers killing themselves in
    that figure?

    Typical prejudiced view.

    John (jsp)

    SV 650
    Black it is
    And Naked
    Hooligan, Apr 26, 2005
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    MattG Guest

    Krusty said...
    Wanna bet?

    RTA death is classified as sudden death and as such falls under the
    remit of the coroner. This will usually require that a postmortem is
    MattG, Apr 26, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    Err... you might want to try reading that again. I was referring to the
    hospital infection fatalities, not RTAs. And yes, I know they'll be
    investigated too, but probably at less cost than an RTA investigation.
    Krusty, Apr 26, 2005
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    MattG Guest

    Krusty said...
    Oh right, so you were. My mistake.

    But yes, fatalities from hospital acquired infections are also
    investigated - I wasn't questioning the cost, just the "no pesky
    investigations bit". The investigations are a serious pain in the arse,
    probably cheaper than an RTA investigation, I agree.
    MattG, Apr 26, 2005
  15. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
    "The motorcyclist was injured in a single-vehicle RTA. He was taken to
    hospital, and subsequently acquired an infection from the A&E unit. He
    was then transferred to a specialist infection unit by ambulance which
    was involved in an accident. At this point he had become completely
    uneconomic, so we let him die."

    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 26, 2005
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Not really.
    Based on numbers of miles ridden bikers *are* more likely to hurl themselves
    into the scenery and die.


    Hermes: "We can't afford that! Especially not Zoidberg!"
    Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!"
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 26, 2005
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