GCSEs (again)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by WavyDavy, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. Lozzo wrote
    That is why I wear reactolites, sometimes I am dyslectic and the rest of
    the time I are just plain fik


    Well done indeed.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 28, 2005
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  2. WavyDavy

    deadmail Guest

    I've spoken to about 8 secondary schools about special needs provisions-
    they all recognised dyslexia. Some of them were state, some private.
    All were in the same area though.

    Even 25 years ago my school (and others in the area I lived) were aware
    of dyslexia and offered extra time in exams.

    I find it very, very hard to believe that any school or education
    authority fails to recognise dyslexia as a condition these days. Still.
    it seems your experience varies.
     
    deadmail, Aug 28, 2005
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  3. WavyDavy

    Ginge Guest

    Yellow is still yellow, innit. :)
    Good girl.
     
    Ginge, Aug 28, 2005
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  4. WavyDavy

    Lozzo Guest

    Ginge says...
    That's what they said, that's what they did.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 28, 2005
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  5. WavyDavy

    Zanziba Guest

    We have a notice board in thestaff room that outlines things exactely like
    that. There are a couple of my pupils that need glasses to see the board
    properly (even from the front) but wont wear them. Once all the teachers
    know then they can insist the pupil put them on each lesson. The usual
    excuse is then that they have forgotten/lost them. The simple answer is that
    they then stay behind over lunch etc. to copy someones book as they couldn't
    see the board. Amazingly they turn up to lessons with the glasses that they
    have "lost" from then on.
     
    Zanziba, Aug 29, 2005
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  6. WavyDavy

    Ben Blaney Guest

    So, to summarize: all of your kids do/did badly at school.

    Hmm. Let's have a think on the common factor.
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 29, 2005
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  7. WavyDavy

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Then he'll spend his working life trolley pushing or burger flipping.

    I know it's been said before but I can't for the life of me see why
    you didn't move away from the area when these problems started to
    become obvious if the schools couldn't help.

    A change in area would have prevented the more recent problems with
    chav brats and your kids would have all done well enough at school to
    go to university.

    I understand that kids can be cunts, my eldest has done things that
    would make most parents shoot her but me being a single parent meant
    it was expected of her so it didn't matter.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Aug 29, 2005
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  8. Perhaps some of the journalists could try taking the exams then we'd
    see.
     
    Boots Blakeley, Aug 29, 2005
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  9. WavyDavy

    WavyDavy Guest

    But C4 did something like that last year (or maybe the year before) called,
    I think, That'll Teach 'Em with a group of 16 year olds who were expected to
    get very good GCSE grades. Students who achieved 8 A*s at GCSE had problems
    passing 'O' Level Maths & English exams.

    The following year they took a bunch of underachieving kids and taught them
    some CSE-based vocational subjects and, on the whole they actually improved
    in both scholastic ability and attitude.

    Not sure what that says about CSEs, but, taking into account the series'
    makers probable underhand tricks and picking just the right mix of kids to
    make the programmes "watchable infotainment" instead of a serious study it
    would appear that GCSEs are easier to achieve a good mark at that 'O'
    Levels.

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Aug 29, 2005
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  10. WavyDavy

    Zanziba Guest

    Yes but remember that, unlike a scholar doing serious imbaised research, C4
    already know what they want the programme to show and what the final
    conclusion will be so they create a programme that does just that.

    Did the pupils follow a 2 year "O" level programme? No, so how can they be
    expected to pass. Many things are no longer on the syllabus that are now
    irrelevant (Log table etc.)

    Also the style of the exams have changed, questions are designed to be in
    context with everyday life, making clinical questions more difficult to the
    untrained.

    It would be more interesting to get an O-level student to sit a GCSE exam,
    together with coursework and then we could see if they were getting easier.

    Saying that, I do still believe that the worth of the GCSE has been reduced.
    If I was looking to employ someone, I'd put more value on an O-level.
     
    Zanziba, Aug 29, 2005
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  11. WavyDavy

    WavyDavy Guest

    Oh the joys of snipping. What you said here is what I said later in my
    post.
     
    WavyDavy, Aug 29, 2005
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  12. WavyDavy

    Lozzo Guest

    WavyDavy says...
    He's clever, he's a teacher. That's why he's over here and working and
    you have to resort to dossing with the French and entering pointless
    motorcycle related competitions.

    It's hard to say who's the winner.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 29, 2005
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  13. ^
    This |
    ^
    Doesn't really square with this. |

    FWIW, IMO The young people are, as always being taught to pass the
    exam, it seems hypocritical that they're then criticised for doing so.
     
    Boots Blakeley, Aug 29, 2005
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  14. Boots Blakeley wrote
    Agree strongly.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 29, 2005
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  15. WavyDavy

    deadmail Guest

    They aren't being criticised. They're just being told they have it
    easier than their Parents' / Grandparents' generation did.

    Nothing changes really.

    This doesn't mean the exams are any harder/easier/whatever though. My
    personal suspicion is that the exams are easier based on my experience
    of looking at my Children's maths/science work but this is a suspicion
    rather than a fact.
     
    deadmail, Aug 30, 2005
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  16. WavyDavy

    sweller Guest

    When you were at school you were learning concepts you found difficult;
    now you understand those concepts and seeing school books through those
    eyes could it be that you perceive them to be easier?
     
    sweller, Aug 30, 2005
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  17. ....that aliens have substituted their own prodgeny for our kids and
    that we must kill everyone under 10?

    It might just work...
     
    danny_deever2000, Aug 30, 2005
    #57
  18. Kids are shagging at younger and younger ages.

    Yet nookie certainly aint getting easier to find. Not for me anyway.
     
    danny_deever2000, Aug 30, 2005
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  19. OK, not direct criticism but certainly undermining their achievements
    and with limited evidence. Sure giving a greater weight to the course
    work may lift the mark but importantly it means that a reasonable
    level of work has to be maintained throughout the course.
    Of course, that however doesn't make it right, FFS praise them if they
    do well and encourage them if they don't do so well.
    I've forgotten so much of the subjects I studied[1] that I really
    couldn't be sure and by the time my kids took A levels the subjects
    they chose I had no real knowledge of.

    [1] I can't recall a time I needed maths etc to O level and HND
    standard apart from the exams.
     
    Boots Blakeley, Aug 30, 2005
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  20. WavyDavy

    frag Guest

    scribbled:
    Look, just stop asking at the school gates [1], it'll only lead to
    tears.


    [1] Unless you're asking MILFs of course :)
     
    frag, Aug 30, 2005
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