Sorry folks - I wanted to snip heaps of stuff, and then got all flustered re headers, ah ha, so bugger it - starting a new thread - but it's sort of related to the one where GWF and Gerry are slagging off about the identity of the dead Vietnam "Gerry" - and the (in)accuracy of the historian who recorded it... This has nothing to do with Vietnam or historians (or motorcycles), so you might want to hit delete right about now.... but as an illustration of the efficiency of our bureaucracy, it still cracks me up Still here? Ok... Medicare. My kids used to be on my card, of course. When my daughter left home, she applied for her own Medicare card. My son was never quite as bureaucratically savvy... anyway.... several years later (later than what? Don't ask me!) we went to Medicare. He'd been to the doc and we were after a Medicare refund. Counter chicky: Who's this claim for? Me: Steve Counter Chicky: What? Me: Yeah, he's got tonsillitis. Counter Chicky: According to out records, he's deceased. Steve: Hello? No, it was just tonsillitis, honest. Counter Chicky: And you are....? Steve: The deceased... Me: No, he just smells that way. I was waiting for the Candid Camera bloke to jump out.... it was very weird... Gotta love bureaucracy, hahahahaha! betty