Getting Pulled Over.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Rob White, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. Rob White

    Rob White Guest

    Heya ppl,

    Stopped for fuel last night around 12:30, cops zoomed in next to me, and
    gave me a breath test, was under... but I didnt think that in NSW they had
    the right to test someone on Private Property? or there an execption to the
    rule?

    -Whitey
     
    Rob White, Sep 10, 2005
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    Smee R1100s Guest

    It's not your property.
    No different to booze buses and rbt's in car parks.
     
    Smee R1100s, Sep 10, 2005
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    Birdman Guest

    this should be fun
     
    Birdman, Sep 10, 2005
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  4. Even though its in private ownership, it's public access. We've had rbt's
    operating within the grounds of the TAFE college where I work in the past
    (to calm the final week celebrations of some apprentices).

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Sep 10, 2005
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  5. Rob White

    Rob White Guest

    I see, So if it was my property its a different story? What could i do then?
    What grounds have they got to pin anything on me if i refuse to leave my
    property so they can breath test me?
     
    Rob White, Sep 10, 2005
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    Bill_h Guest

    I wouldn't bet on that. In Queensland I belive the coppers are at
    liberty to breathalyse you even if you have pulled in your own
    driveway.

    Cheers, :)

    Bill_h
     
    Bill_h, Sep 10, 2005
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    Marty H Guest

    speaking in Victoria

    the police have no "right" to breathalyze you, you have the "right" to
    refuse, then they have the "right" to take away your license.

    simple really

    mh
    (well the courts take it away)
     
    Marty H, Sep 10, 2005
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    Smee R1100s Guest

    The way I understand privacy laws if the police followed you on the
    assumption youm were drinking into your property then they can
    breathalyse you under reasonable suspicion asthis followed from the
    preceding event.
    If you were in your property and they suddenly turn up and ask for a
    breath test then you can refuse as one event didn't follow the other.
    Cops are not alowed entry into your property without your consent and
    without a warrant unless they have a reasonable belief a crime is being
    commited.
     
    Smee R1100s, Sep 10, 2005
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    Matt Palmer Guest

    Rob White is of the opinion:
    I reckon if they observed you operating a motor vehicle on a public street,
    and decided they wanted to administer a breath test after you had left the
    vehicle, and you lit it up, you'd be toast. I doubt the beak would let you
    off because you were tested in your loungeroom.

    - Matt
     
    Matt Palmer, Sep 10, 2005
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    atec Guest

    If there is sufficient reason to believe that operation of a motor
    vehical ( or other criminal act)under the influence to the detriment of
    your self or others occurs it can be enough to allow passage (
    justification ) past your front door and eventually can lead to arrest .
    In other words some one might just drop some oregano baggy about the
    place . ( I know someone who had this shite foisted on them)
     
    atec, Sep 10, 2005
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    Buzz Guest

    In Victoria, the offence of Exceed PCA (Over .05) takes place anywhere. If
    you crashed your bike on private property and were taken to hospital,
    Police can make sure blood is taken. If your over your done for it. Also,
    even though a Petrol Station belongs to someone else, it is a road related
    area, meaning you can be required to undergo a PBT.

    Buzz (Who hasn't posted for a looooong time)
     
    Buzz, Sep 12, 2005
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    Sir Lex Guest

    I know the mobile phones at servo's saga is supposed to be a rumour gone
    wrong, but... you could've thrown a wobbly and pointed at the servo
    signs saying "no mobile phones", and told them to turn off their
    breathalyser before they blew everyone up. Would've been interesting to
    see their reaction :) Unless of course their reaction was "sir these
    are completely sealed units and are safe to use in this environment", in
    which case you would've felt like a dill.

    A friend of mine got done for low range drink driving on a privately
    owned road in NSW last week. AFAIK, it's illegal to operate a vehicle
    even on private property if you've over the limit, and the police have
    the right to RBT you anywhere if you're behind the wheel.

    --
    SL

    "The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over
    to an idea so sincerely, so vitally, that in the end they
    succumb to it utterly and can never again escape from it"

    Joseph Goebbels - Nazi Minister of Propaganda, 1933 - 1945
     
    Sir Lex, Sep 12, 2005
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    GB Guest

    Words to the effect of "permitted to enter private property
    for the porpoise of apprehening someone when they are operating
    on the reasonable believe that the person has committed a crime."
    DUI is a crime. Reasonable belief: you were riding a bike, so
    you must be guilty. Game over.

    GB
     
    GB, Sep 12, 2005
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  14. Rob White

    GB Guest

    Kinda takes half the fun out of a good paddock bash, doesn't it!

    GB
     
    GB, Sep 12, 2005
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    Moike Guest

    Well that's something you can do something about.

    Welcome back.

    (been away or just lurking?)

    Moike
     
    Moike, Sep 12, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    You mean I can't ride my mower with a stubby in my hand?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Sep 12, 2005
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  17. Rob White

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Can they apprehen dolphins as well?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Sep 12, 2005
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    Toosmoky Guest

    Too long. Welcome back, Buzz.
     
    Toosmoky, Sep 12, 2005
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    GB Guest

    Strictly limited to porpoises AFAIK.

    GB, I wonder if there's a seperate clause for ostriches?
     
    GB, Sep 12, 2005
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  20. I was about to reply to Sir Lex, "They'll be chasing me around the paddock
    for a while if they try and do a BT while I'm cutting the grass!"

    Lucky I checked first to make sure you weren't doing a Knob!

    I sit my stubby on a shady fence post and have a pit stop every lap. The old
    Briggs and Stratton vibrations flatten the beer too quick!
     
    Pisshead Pete, Sep 12, 2005
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