GS500F - Setup Fees, Delivery Fee? Dealers? Price?

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Lawrence Frelot, Aug 14, 2004.

  1. Hi Folks!

    I have finally settled on buying either a GS500F or a Ninja 500. Thanks to
    all the help that I have received in this group I am on my way to finally
    buying a bike.

    Someone at a dealer up here in San Francisco recommended that I buy my bike
    in LA Cyclesports in Inglewood ( I went online and got a
    quote from them. Their "Out-the-door" price on a GS500F is $4,999.00. They
    say that their margin is low and that they offer the best prices in

    What do you think about their pricing on this bike?
    Has anyone had any experience with LA Cyclesports?
    Are there any other dealers people would recommend to me?

    Also, I don't really want to haggle with dealers so I want to send out a fax
    bid to dealers and have them just fax me back there best quote. Is this a
    good idea? This will be my first bike purchase so I am not sure how to
    proceed. Is there a source where you can find out how much a dealer gets a
    bike for like cars?

    I plan to go down to LA (or another place if better deal) and pick this bike
    up. I don't think I want to ride it back just yet. I was thinking about
    renting a U-haul or something. Any comments or suggestions.

    Lastly, what is a good web site I can research about gear?

    Thanks a million Folks!

    - Lawrence
    Lawrence Frelot, Aug 14, 2004
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  2. got a pickup? or can you borrow one? a bike fits quite easily into the
    bed of most any pickup, and its far easier than dealing with a trailer.
    you'll just need a motorcycle ramp, and a couple of tiedown straps, which
    you'd need for a trailer anyways.

    canyon-dancers or similar soft-straps for the handlebars are highly
    recommended, this way the hooks of your tiedown straps don't mar the bars
    or whatever.

    the guys at the dealer where you're buying it should be willing to help
    you load and secure it, defer to their better judgement unless someone
    gives you a full rundown on appropriate bike tiedown techniques (which are
    all over the place). I hauled a bigass BMW on a rickety old 1965 F100
    from Redwood City to Santa Cruz, no problem, just tied down the bars with
    standard ratchet straps. others say you should block the wheels, and
    tiedown the forks, etc etc.
    John R Pierce, Aug 14, 2004
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  3. Lawrence Frelot

    Michael Guest

    Doesn't strike me as a horrible price. I'd rather have the
    Ninja, though. :)
    I almost used them for a recent bike purchase. However,
    I wound up asking a local bay area dealer for a quote -
    to my surprise they were very close in price. I bought
    locally. It's probably not a bad idea to survey several
    local dealerships. You never know, somebody might be in
    a hurry to move stock.
    Check out AllAmerican in Santa Cruz. I have no experience with
    them, but when I was pricing SV1000s they were offering
    really good deals. Probably worth a phone call.

    Also search the Cycle Trader. Some dealerships offer quotes
    by email.
    Try it, and find out!

    -- Michael
    Michael, Aug 14, 2004
  4. they are a pretty good dealer from various reports. I've had some minor
    service on my BMW done there, and new tires mounted and such, and they
    treated me fine (one of their lead wrenches was a former beemer shop guy).
    They carry Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki, but not Yamaha (the Santa Cruz BMW
    dealer runs the local Yamaha franchise). They also let me test ride a
    used Kawi ZRX1200R when I was considering offing my beemer.
    John R Pierce, Aug 14, 2004
  5. Thanks for all the information! Do you know where I can start getting
    information about gear for starters? Any websites for info and also vendors
    that you recommend?

    Lastly, why would you rather have the Ninja?
    Lawrence Frelot, Aug 14, 2004
  6. Thanks for all the information! Do you know where I can start getting
    information about gear for starters? Any websites for info and also vendors
    that you recommend?

    Lastly, why would you rather have the Ninja?
    Lawrence Frelot, Aug 14, 2004
  7. Lawrence Frelot

    Choffman Guest

    For online vendors try
    Choffman, Aug 14, 2004
  8. wild guess, its more of a sportbike, while the GS500F is more of a
    'standard', which would be *my* suggestion for a first bike.

    ah, gear, there you'll get as many opinions as there are posters. the
    'touring' crowd I hang with believes in ATGATT (All The Gear All The
    Time), and their favorite is the one piece Aerostich Roadcrafter, a good
    pair of boots (Sidi, Alpinestar, Daytona), gloves and a full face helmet
    (Arai, Shoei, HJC). You're looking at over $1000 for all that.

    me, I have two outfits at present, one is a Gericke leather jacket, and
    leather pants, and the other is a Joe Rocket nylon jacket (JUNK, AVOID!!)
    and some nylon overpants (can't recall the brand). Wish I'd gotten
    another firstgear nylon jacket, I undoubtably will before long. Arai
    Signet GT helmet, Daytona Boots (although I just wear some heavy hiking
    boots on my daily commute to work), and a few different pairs of gloves
    complete my rig.
    John R Pierce, Aug 14, 2004
  9. How'd the GS500 get up to 5 grand is what I'd want to know. It's a
    design that hasn't changed in a long time, used to sell for a lot less.
    What's the out the door price for a Bandit or SV?
    Jason O'Rourke, Aug 14, 2004
  10. Lawrence Frelot

    Michael Guest

    Nope. I don't know of any good gear review sites. Sorry.

    My personal gear is from a wide array of manufacturers. My only
    brand preference is Shoei, for helmets. YMMV, as there are many
    Objectively: it's a better bike. Liquid cooled, more horsepower,
    better gas mileage, etc. Also valve check intervals are 10K+
    miles, instead of 3500 miles on the Suzuki. Frequent valve checks
    are a PITA and incur higher ownership costs.

    However, the Suzuki is better looking.

    MCN did a comparison of these two bikes in their July 04 issue.
    It's pretty detailed, and I'd recommend reading it before making
    a purchase. You can get this back issue from Ian Smith Reports:

    They also offer a service where they will scan and email you
    a pdf of an article for $5.

    Subjectively: my first bike was a '94 EX500, and I loved the
    darn thing. I commuted, played hooligan, and toured on it.
    I had a great time. So I have a pretty strong bias. If I were
    in your shoes, I would look around for a lightly used Ninja
    for around $3K. Mind you, I am a CheapBastard(tm). :)

    Ultimately, you need to buy the bike *you* want. Read the reviews,
    and by all means do some logical analysis, but when it comes
    right down to it you should buy the bike that speaks to you.
    If you really want the Suzuki, then that is the bike you should

    Have fun!

    -- Michael
    Michael, Aug 14, 2004
  11. Lawrence Frelot

    Michael Guest

    That's true. The GS is around 40hp, while the experts-only
    Ninja 500 puts out a pavement wrinkling 50hp!


    -- Michael
    Michael, Aug 14, 2004
  12. Don't forget to figure in the cost of transportation to and from LA,
    your time, etc. You might not wind up saving any money at all.

    I find it to be worth buying from a local dealership, since you
    establish a relationship with them. When the bike has problems two
    days after you pick it up, going back to the dealership where you
    got it will invariably get you excellent service.

    Patti Beadles, Aug 14, 2004
  13. ["Followup-To:" header set to]
    For info, check out <> and
    <>. The first is reviews submitted by regular
    riders, whereas the second is more like a traditional magazine. They both
    have good info, though.

    Josh Kaderlan, Aug 14, 2004
  14. ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.motorcycle.sportbike.]
    Actually, L.A. Cycle Sports will deliver to your door for (the last time I
    checked) $100. No need to go down there.
    Unless you buy from Golden Gate Cycles...

    Josh Kaderlan, Aug 14, 2004
  15. That has worked well for me, emphasizing OTD price quotes but over the

    However, one of the cheapest dealers in the area (Jim & Jim's
    Yamaha Suzuki of Santa Rosa) may require you to talk to someone they
    know to establish a trust relationship (the owner has horror stories
    about other dealers calling up, getting price quotes, then cussin her
    out over the phone).

    Call them up and get a price quote from them before you deal with
    going down to LA.

    Their prices are low enough that its worth the hastle, and they do a
    wonderful bit of "make the break-in service 'free'" as a way of
    getting people to actually preform it (a very nice idea).

    I assume you are paying 100% out of your bank account. Don't finance
    a motorcycle, especially a "cheap" one.
    Uhaul is expensive, actually, and you don't want to road-trip a new
    engine. LA Cycle Sports may ship.

    My suggestion would be to buy/ship to a local area dealer and have a
    friend ride it home (the golden gate bridge is pretty terrifying for a
    new rider, it may be only 35 mph, but the crosswinds are a B@#)$*).

    Both bikes are great beginner bikes. is a very good place to buy gear, I know of MANY
    satisified customers on this forum (me included) and no unsatisfied
    Nicholas Weaver, Aug 15, 2004
  16. Actually, the Ninja 500 is very standard on the seating position.
    Basically, the ninja has a little better handling, and 10 more HP when
    you need it (higher redline), but 0 more HP when you don't (same
    displacement and torque curve on the low part of the redline.

    Also, the GS500F actually LOOKS like more of a sportbike. The new
    bodywork is a cute GSXR look.
    Nicholas Weaver, Aug 15, 2004
  17. New body work: It now looks like a baby-GSXR.
    Nicholas Weaver, Aug 15, 2004
  18. Lawrence Frelot

    Bill Bornman Guest

    if they have what you're looking for m/c closeouts has great prices.

    I've never bought anything from them but from Wilson's it looks like they'll send you an OTD price
    quote (and Fresno is a little closer than LA):
    Bill Bornman, Aug 15, 2004
  19. I appreciate all the info. that I am getting. It is definitely setting me
    in the right direction.

    Again, thanks!

    - Lawrence
    Lawrence Frelot, Aug 15, 2004
  20. Lawrence Frelot

    Rich Guest

    I can understand that when you are buying a used bike, but with a new
    one you are essentially relying on the manufacturer's warranty. There's
    plenty of time to develop a rapport with your local dealer's service
    department that will ensure the level of support you're willing to pay for.

    Rich, Urban Biker
    Rich, Aug 15, 2004
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