Haiti

A moment of excitement followed by hours of boredom, followed by another
moment of excitement. Quite the opposite of bike riding.

--
Beav

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Check out "Nitro Circus" on TV[1]. One of the crew gets to ride with Kirkby
Chamblis while he rags the bollocks out of his Extra 300.

[1] one of the MTV channels

--
Beav

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Now you're scraping the bottom.


--
Beav

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Zed 1000
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I've been indisposed today so I see you've already had a lot of
comment and as you can tell a lot of the UKRM regulars mileage varies.

It's a high volume (though nowhere near its peak) group, read by busy
people (apart from those slacking off at work of course) and it is
really appreciated when some care is taken over format, making it
easier to read. Usenet is a dying medium and sloppy posting hastens
its end.

I also use agent and scrolling through a large screed of text when I'm
trying to do a quick catch up (I'm constantly 1500 odd behind it
seems) gets really irritating, really quickly. You happened to catch
my polite reminder, but Nige, Beav and Catman have all had similar
comments.

It's about having a little bit of thought for the other people you are
interacting with. It may well hark back to the old limited bandwidth
days, but what it has become is a set of cultural norms within the
group. When you deliberately set out to do something that a number of
people have told you is not appreciated it makes you come across as
selfish and rude. Now I'm sure you're not those things, but that's the
impression given.

So, is taking a couple of seconds to make neat posts really that
anathema to you?

 

Not really, I will snip if it is silly. But is it an anathema to you
to not snip and save me the time of going back and searching to find
what the original thread was about? It works both ways. Just because
it is a protocol does not mean it is right. It works for some, and not
for others. Sorry if it annoys you, that is not my intention. But I
prefer the other direction unless of course if thread drifts to insane
lengths, as this thread has done. I certainly would not leave 300+
posts in a thread. But if it is relevant to the discussion I am
posting then I'll leave it there and would prefer other people to do
so as well.

You name 3 people who post in here constantly. They are up on all the
threads and don't need reminding what the discussion was about. There
are other people reading as well.

 

It was ridiculous in the post that started this. Be thankful it was me
being polite and not one of the other snip scions wading in.

If it leaves pages of attributions and unrelated text, yes.

It does, but the majority view here (and I saw what you did ogden) is
that the reading is easier if posts are in a neat format.

But it is what is considered polite and considerate here.

But you added 'moi?' to a bit of the thread that only needed the
paragraph above it for context. At that point it didn't matter what
the original thread was about, it was a sub thread, a new
conversation. There was no need to leave the rest in as it provided no
context to the bit you were replying to.

So snip the discussion that has passed.

'Think of the lurkers'. UKRM is a sod to keep up with. Some people
here make it worth the effort.

 

Fair enough. I read things differently.

Who is wrong and who decides who is wrong?

I've got thick skin. Again, I apologise if you don't like it, but you
can skip my posts if you want. The same way I skip posts on forums
that I can see coming from someone who I know is most likely posting
bullshit.

It's called free speech and I'm afraid I will not be dictated to as to
how and where I do it.

If you think that is wrong, I respect your right to tell me to ****
off. But it won't change the way I do things. I'd prefer to see people
leave the context of a thread in there. You obviously don't. There's
no real resolution to that apart from guns at dawn

 

But that's where I am coming from. If you are only an occasional
reader in here, it is easier if the context of the post is in one
message. I don't get why this is such an issue. If everyone here is
offended by that reasoning, I will stop doing it, but I have to say I
cannot fathom the logic.

 

What makes you think it is?

Perhaps you should give up trying.

 

Fair call.

 

Whatever floats your boat.

 

You can lose control of your buoyancy though?

 

Yes, it is possible. If the BCD doesn't have enough air then you'll sink
until you put more air in. I thought you'd know this already.

 

Yers, isn't it the sort of mistake nervous newbies make?

 

There are loads of boring dives.

But.
OK some are a bit touristy:

Zabargad south of Hamata. (Outstanding sea and coral sites, caves and
tunnels. Fish etc., have to move out the way for you.)

Thistlegorm. (You have dive it once)

The Cenotes. (100 meter vis)
Akumal and Tulun (why swim with 10 dolphin when you can swim with 10
whale sharks)

Coast of Kenya and Tanzania. (More mantas than you can shake a stick at)

And one of my favourites the wrecks in the North Sea. (When the vis is
acceptable)

Nothing boring about that lot and you don't need to be an advanced diver
to do them.

 

Mistake? Yes. Sometimes it happens to the pros too. I recall a British
diver called Rob Palmer, who was fairly well known for some reason, died
out the Red Sea. As I recall he got into the water, dived down and didn't
stop.

 

I expect he caught sight of the *others*

 

Best dived from a liveaboard when the day boats have gone and even
better as a night dive. Still personally prefer the Rosalie Moller,
had a great dive with the eldest sprog on that, just us and a couple
of guys on breathers. Of course we then had 25 minutes of stops but it
was worth it.

Want to see whale sharks sometime, saw basking sharks off Cornwall
last year
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Which is why any instructor who puts a newbie into OW without a hard
bottom is taking a chance.

 

Wouldn't know. The one and only time I tried diving, I had a
claustrophobia induced panic attack and had to surface fairly
sharpish. Diving doesn't appear to agree with me.