Haiti

A tad complicated.
A PPL can have a night rating without an instrument rating but the
flight is classed as IMC because the visibility requirements for VMC
cannot be met.

 

"XXX" air strip after the fateful combination of:

1/ The pilot and passengers have their cars parked a "XXX"

2/ After a day out the passengers believe the pilot when he says: "We'll
make it before it gets dark."

3/ Oh sh*t we haven't the fuel left to go else where.


So you line all the available cars up along the runway at an angle
lighting up the grass so the pilot can see to land.

Does that count?

 

The lights on them were shit, though.

 

...and then there are those who conflate the Ozone Hole into the
argument as well.

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odd coves, those golfers

 

Some of you may know I'm ex fire, and a friend of mine is over in
Haiti right now. I got this press release from the FS today. I thought
it might be of interest.










Date Added: 17th January 2:45pm


UPDATE ON UK FIREFIGHTERS IN HAITI; 3 RESCUED, TEAM NOW MOVED TO
EPICENTRE OF QUAKE

The team of 64 UK firefighters are beginning their third full day of
operations in Haiti since they began to arrive on Thursday.

They had been working in the Deprez area of Porto-au-Prince, using
local intelligence reports to search buildings where people were
believed to be trapped but still alive. The team had been searching
for survivors at a local Police station, a supermarket, and a language
school.

So far they have rescued a two year old girl called Mia who has now
been reunited with her mother after spending three days trapped in the
rubble. On Saturday a team also rescued a 60yr old male after a 7hr
rescue operation, and a 40yr old female who took 4 hrs to reach.

Today (Sunday) the majority of the UK International Search and Rescue
team are leaving Port-au-Prince to assist in the area near the
epicentre of the Haitian earthquake.

Fifty seven of them, along with members of the RAPID UK, 25 members of
the Icelandic team, and 14 Qatari’s are forming a task force which is
being deployed to the town of Leogane. They were hoping to depart
Port-au-Price at 13:00 GMT.

Leogane is a 2 hour drive west of the capital and they will travel by
lorry and bus. They will remain in Leogane for the rest of the day,
through the night and continue operations there tomorrow. Leogane was
near the epicentre of the earthquake and as yet no Search and Rescue
teams have visited this area.

The United Nations have confirmed that security in the region should
not be a problem however the teams will be escorted by a battalion of
UN peacekeepers from Sri Lanka.

The remaining 7 UK International Search and Rescue personnel who are
left in Port-au-Prince are staying at the airport assisting the US
military distributing aid via helicopter.

All the UK team are reported to be fit and well but communications
from Haiti are proving very difficult. The UK command centre for this
mission is being run from the HQ of Hampshire Fire & Rescue Service
and they are receiving updates via satellite phone from the teams in
Haiti.

We hope to have a further update once the teams reach Leogane.


NOTES

The West Sussex Fire & Rescue Service's Technical Rescue Unit is one
of 21 specialist search and rescues teams strategically situated
around the UK.

These Fire & Rescue Service teams are primarily funded by central
Government through its New Dimensions programme. New Dimensions was
part of the UK response to 9/11 and is aimed at providing the UK a
more resilient response to a major incident such as widespread
flooding, structural collapses, terrorist attack or transport
emergency.

Thirteen of these teams are trained to be deployed overseas as part of
the UK response when a foreign government appeals for help after a
natural disasters. When deployed overseas they are known as ISAR
teams (International Search & Rescue)

All ISAR teams are trained to use the same kit and equipment, which
can lift, cut, and remove concrete and rubble from collapsed
structures, along with sophisticated cameras and listening devices for
finding casualties.

Based at Horley Fire Station, the West Sussex team has 12 members who
have been selected from existing WSFRS staff.
The West Sussex firefighters on this rescue mission are Station
Manager St John Stanley, Crew Manager Chris Kemp, and Firefighters
Peter Thorpe-Hinks, Brian Vincent, Mick Lewin and Rob Negus.

A team of 64 firefighters and two search dogs, together with 12 tonnes
of equipment left Gatwick at 1840hrs on Wednesday 13th January on a
flight organised by DFID, the Government Department for International
Development.

Whilst working abroad each Fire & Rescue Service team has one of five
specific roles within the UK rescue team; Command & Control,
Logistics, Search, Rescue, and Medical.

The West Sussex firefighters are running the logistical operation for
the UK mission, set up in base of operations for most of the
international rescue teams.

The other teams of firefighters are from Greater Manchester,
Lincolnshire, Kent, West Midlands, Lancashire, South Wales, Hampshire
and Mid & West Wales

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Beav

Fairly:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/VFR_Guide_03_09.pdf

"VFR flight is not permitted in any UK airspace at night. Night is
defined as the time from half an hour after sunset until half an hour
before sunrise, sunset and sunrise being determined at surface level."

 

The PROBABLY in your statement means it has oh-so-much scientific
validity.

 

Well done!

 

In communiqué <>,

In any case, the even less than 10% 'extra' still sounds like a pretty
significant change over what is, in geological time terms but "a few
hours":

http://www.bgs.ac.uk/education/timeline/entertimeline.html

Not forgetting that there wouldn't be so many "farting cattle" if it
wasn't for homo sapiens giving up hunter/gatherer for farmer.

Personally, I'm convinced by the argument that 'we' have brought about
changes in the make up of the atmosphere, that are so rapid (even
allowing for an otherwise general very slow cooling) that the
biosphere[1] may not accommodate, at least without some fairly drastic
changes in what was previously considered normal climate fluctuations.

Those changes could be short term in geological time terms, as feedback
in the Gaia[2] system will ensure some kind of balance, albeit not the
same, relatively steady, state that preceded the industrial
revolution[3].

In any case, as Champ says, this is just another symptom of over
population.

Of course it's very tempting to be a 'human created global warming, as
the main driver for climate change' denier, because ultimately, in true
UKRM fashion WGAF?

[1][2] I make no apology for using such hippy tree-lover words as
shorthand for a complex system, of which we have only a rudimentary
understanding.
[3] Or some other arbitrary point in time representing a significant
step change in the *rate of growth* of human initiated
greenhouse gas emissions.
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Not nowadays, sonny. Anyway, she had an IMC rating as well.

 

Pretty much my take on it.

The media alweays seem to bang on about two groups wrt "climate
change" : accepeters and deniers (or the "faithful" and the "heretics"
- if you believe the shite some folk write)

They always ignore the third group: which I suspect is quite large:
those of us who couldn't give a flying **** one way or another.

Oh, and the 4th group: those who've never heard of it.

 

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:55:43 +0000, Salad Dodger

That'll be me. Sort of.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Salad Dodger

I dislike intensely the use of the phrase "climate change denier". It's
very clearly a crass attempt to make the link to holocaust-denial.

*ding*

 

OK, how about "climate change sceptic".

Ah, perhaps "climate change cynic".


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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pete Fisher

Better.

I don't say that I am one, by the way (I'm firmly in the "GAF" camp). I
just dislike the lazy use of emotive language to attempt to stifle
discussion.

 

But what about all the other gasses they put out?
That's volcanos not humans.

In a century, natural shifts in the earths climate will produce more
worrying gas inputs than that.

A bit of a mini ice age and we will have increases in the submerged CO2
gas deposits and a decrease from the permafrost.

A bit of a warm up and they will decrease but the gasses locked in the
permafrost will make up for it.

 

A leading Doom and Gloomer on a TV discussion since Xmas[1], didn't even
know who Milankovitch was. Made me laugh.

So you are agreeing with me?

We are going through a predictable climate change with only a minor[2]
deviation due to humans.

[1] No I can't remember what programme.

[2]For minor read a few hundred years for a major change in climate.

 

Do me a favour!!!!

I'm just putting across that the earth *will* go through climate changes
naturally. And there is bugger all we can do about it.
It's over short, long and very long time scales.

Rajendra Pachauri knows what he's talking about.
Al Gore is a scare monger needed to get the US to pay attention.
Why he shared in the prise I have no idea!

Both are talking about effects on the short term (on a very long time
scale) that will have effect on millions in the short term (human
scale).

I spent some time with the SPOT sat guys before I retired, where
Rajendra Pachauri was getting a lot of his climate change info from in
this century.

 

Who said it would suck the stuff back up, I'm talking about what goes
into our atmosphere?

I agree, I think it will get worse regardless of what we do.

Depending on Milankovitch's major or minor cycles either it's the
1,500,00 year one (above) or the shorter one (below)

It looks like we are heading for a mini ice age in the next couple of
centuries. Similar to the ones Bruegel painted in the 16c.

Or the 10,000 year one:

A bit more green house gas.
Heat things up.
Melt more arctic ice into the Labrador current.
Change the salinity of the sea.
Stop the Atlantic conveyer from circling the North Atlantic.
Europe has an ice age.
The Sahara goes green.

And what ever the other things happen.

You are an officer and a gentleman Sir.