Haiti

Stop now.

You should have realised Hog was trolling as soon as he mentioned war
graves.

I'm surprised that he hasn't complained about the government promising
money towards the upkeep of Auschwitz rather than pissing it up the
wall more commonly known as NHS contractors but give it time and he'll
be on the case.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 'Hog

Of course it is, you idiot.

Build it in Scotland.

NEXT!

 

Technically that's only half true, they're in the whole of Derby's
backyard.

I still rememebr when they took the "A nuclear Free zone" sign down
across the road from the plant.

 

[...]

Then get some more skilled ones from France or Japan to design safer
plants, duh. :->

You worked on them nukes, that skews your perception of risk vs other
stuff.

The largest industrial catastrophe was not nuclear related, after all,
it was chemical related.

 

I'd go along with nuclear if we could just get rid of the waste. We're
in a no win situation at the moment. But I do think we've fucked the
environment over that badly that it's going to be a problem. Not for
you and me. Dunno how old you are (I'm 49) but we can't just keep
going in the direction we are. By the time the full consequences kick
in, I'll be dead.

I used to be totally anti-nuclear. I'm still against it, but starting
to think it may be the lesser of all the evils if we want our energy.
Can one of you lot please get cold nuclear fusion going. Now. Please?

 

Hmmmmm - I dont see any desert around Chenoble, the surrounding area
is greener than ever and teeming with wildlife. Not a good place to
live, but certainly not a desert.

Complacency is always the worst enemy of safety, but modern nuclear plants
are much safer than the first generation.

If you take the total casualties (fatal and serious) over the full
energy cycle per gigawatt hour Nuclear comes out as by far the best.

Coal is the worst, partly due to the mining and transport risks.
Oil and gas have a better record than coal but the North Sea is
typical of the industry safety record.

 

The largest industrial catastrophe known to man was British Leyland.

HTH.

 

And that has happened how many times?

 

You are of course refering to their output, aren't you?

 

Yeah was not what I was thinking was the case.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Kevin Gleeson

Likewise.

 

Dunno whether this is a ginge in here, but I recall reading this
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html years ago.

That said, something doesn't ring quite true with that website to me.
Just a little too pat. Dunno.

 

Interesting.

Pretty much ties in with my food safety training - spoilage bacteria
aren't harmful - in fact, they work in our favour as they're
significantly more competitive than the really nasty bugs.

 

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:52:03 +0100, Kevin Gleeson

[...]

http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/million-years-of-isolation-interview.html

A very interesting interview with one of the architects of the Yucca
Mountain repository.

Good for you, old fogey, I'm 32 [1] and unless I splat myself while
biking [2] I have a good chance of living to the last quarter of the 21st
century. And really, medical technology advances rather fast, so I have
a good shot at living until some life extension therapies become
available. So I'm all for nuclear.

[1] On ukrm I feel like such a youngster ;-)
[2] A highly likely occurrence, Polish roads are deathtraps even for cagers

 

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:07:04 +0100, Simian

[...]

Heh, I was about to reply to your previous post that you should give
Wright's "Golden Age" a pass, then. ;-)

You probably also wouldn't like "Singularity Sky" and "Iron Sunrise"
by Charles Stross nor the Alastair Reynolds "Revelation Space" series.

 

It may not have a desert landscape but close to the station is not
going to be habitable for a long time yet.

Hasn't it occurred to you that another major factor when it comes to
measuring safety against performance is the age of the station? I
can't be arsed to start googling right now but I doubt if there's an
operational nuke older than an operational coal fired power station.

 

I'm not going to go and try to find the exact figures so I'm only
going by what I hear at safety briefings when I'm working at nuclear
power stations and that'd give a figure of 'some'.

It depends on what you classify as potentially dangerous and how close
to it happening you want to be before you start worrying about it. I
don't think you should leave it until alarms are sounding before you
start to consider something to be dangerous.

 

I don't think I would care in 10,000 years.
I didn't believe in reincarnation last time either.

Things more likely to effect me would be, in no particular order:

Some deranged idiot chucking nukes about because he believes Allah wants
him to.

The odd caldera letting go.

Chunks of islands sliding into the sea and causing mega tsunami.

Large lumps of space rock colliding with Earth.

And there is bugger all I can do about those either.

(Where is Bruce Willis when you need him?)

 

I also CBA to check, but the last of the Magnox reactors are getting
rather old now so I would be surprised if no coal stations are
younger.
It really is about time they got the French in to replace the ancient
Nuclear stations though, Magnox is definitely not the safest technology.

 

Sure, but when *do* you start caring?

How about 1000 years time? 100? Just "within your lifetime"?

I'm not sure TBH, but for me, it's definitely closer the latter. I
think.