Haiti

If, as some studies have shown, 95% of the total CO2 in the world is
produced by everything OTHER than humans produce, how long will it take to
us destroy the atmosphere with our actions I wonder?


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They said that about the first world war too. Have we EVER learned from
history?


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My first reaction was "Ouch" and then: "At least it happened in a place
that doesn't matter".

 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/19/ippc_glacier_cockup/

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I could rely on you to inject some more common sense.

 

I think Mick and Simian did that to death.

I will throw something else into the pond, as it were. If we do see a
longer term rise in CO2 and we do get a warmer world and sea level rises
(say) 1-3 metres. Erm. So fucking what? It has fallen and risen a *lot*
more than that through human history.

I think it should be tackled for reasons of technological efficiency and
preservation of resources and prevention of pollution but climate change per
se is never ending and humanity moves with it.

 

Cold (muon-catalysed) fusion isn't going to happen -- the muon sticks
to one of the fragments too frequently to create a long catalytic chain
reaction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon-catalyzed_fusion

Accelerator-driven thorium reactors look interesting, but you need
to pump in a lot of accelerator power to run them, and the technology is
far from proven yet:
http://gow.epsrc.ac.uk/ViewGrant.aspx?GrantRef=EP/G009864/1

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Plutonim mate. Wonderful power source.

You do realise we are all relying on Cern to discover significant new access
to energy?

What are these jokers up to? Defrauding gullible investors perchance.
www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090147905

 

I don't think any magnox stations are still running and the most
recent coal fired station came on line in the early '70s.

The French will be building the new stations but it's not clever that
they're extending the life cycle of older stations to generate the
cash to pay for the new ones rather than closing them when they were
supposed to.

 

And there's me been wasting my time doing a presentation today about
how as a company we're striving to reduce our carbon footprint on a
year by year basis.

I felt ill when I was doing it and I still feel ill thinking about it
now. Light those fires and turn the heating up.

 

Ref New Zealand:

The Franz Josif glacier is now enlarging (is that the right word) and
has been since the mid 80s at anything up to a meter a year. It
retreated nearly a mile during the 20C.

The Fox glacier[1] retreated a similar distance, starting rapidly about
100 years ago. It started enlarging in the mid 80s at a similar rate.

From evidence left behind them they have both been doing this for some
while.

The Milford Sound shows on its walls the results of five major ice ages
that occurred at 'regular' intervals.

[1] Has Foxes Glacier Mints and the Fox Glacier any connection?

 

Ivan will probably guide me on me on my polar science (Having been there
done that got the Tshirt.) but don't the sea levels near the 'melting'
ice caps fall in relation to the land they uncover as the land rises
with the weight of ice coming off it.

This screws up the sea level rise predictions that use:
Ice melting adds water to oceans and they then rise.

With the land springing back up the sea will rise a *lot* more.

 

Extraordinarily poisonous chemistry, thobut.

Misguided fools -- CERN has nothing to do with nuclear energy! You
want the Paul Scherrer Institute (PSI) for that; part of it was originally
EIR -- Eidgenossiches Institut fuer Reaktorforschung (Federal Institute
for Reactor Research). [The other part was SIN, Schweizerisches Institut
fuer Nuklearforschung -- Swiss Institute for Nuclear Research.] It's
unfortunate that several decades ago institutes involved in _particle_
physics research took the word "nuclear" into their name, just as a few
decades before "atomic" was misleadingly used where nowadays "nuclear"
would be more appropriate.

God, that is _dense_ -- and so are the people who wrote it, methinks.
There's no indication of how they are going to resolve the problem of
nuclear repulsion, even if they get rid of the electrons (no mention of
ionisation). And that's assigned to a manufacturer of toilet paper?
Just about says it all, really...

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That's a bit crass for you Neil.

Though it does remind me of the joke-du-jour, way back when...

"What's the hardest part about having AIDS? Convincing your Mum you're Haitian!"

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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older

This is quite interesting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8467755.stm

The comments are utterly predictable (particularly those from
Septicistan).

I hear John Sentamu on R4 the morning after the quake. His bumbling
responses to questioning were totally pathetic, but why wouldn't they
be? He has no answers to questions about the real world.

 

Yeah - but never say never. But we're not even close yet.

 

Well it has in human history of course, but only when there were
sooooo many less of us on this planet without all the technology we
love. And most of our large population cities are coastal.

3m would **** us over big time I reckon. OK, it's going to be gradual
and not like a tsunami, but it would be pretty hard to handle. I
recall seeing a map of New York for a 2m water rise a while back. Not
good.

 

An example of natural cyclic conditions that has been going on for
millennia upon millennia only altered to a minor degree by man in the
last few years.

It is also an incredible and beautiful place.
Deserving the over used expression AWESOME.

 

I spend a reasonable time along the coast of Norfolk at depth of up to
30 meters[1]. Mostly it is wreck diving but I have had some interesting
drift dives in 10 to 15 meters closer to shore when the winds got up.

There are definite evidence of man made structure to be found and
fossilised bits and pieces. I found what I believe (or looks like) a
huge canine tooth 12 cm long. A mate of mine has a mammoth molar.

[1] OK I am a wimp, not into technical diving or spending ages hanging
on a shot line doing deco. Anyway below 30 meters gets cold and dark out
there.

 

Did they take this into account, a minor CO2 source, though it might be?
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Sorry it's the Guardian so treat it the same as the Express

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/20/pink-footed-goose-co2-v
illain