Handle bar engine kill switch or ignition key switch to stop bike?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Guest, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Do you use the handle bar engine kill switch or ignition key switch to stop
    your bike?

    I have been told that my Triumph Bonneville has been eating ignition coils
    every 1500 miles, because I have been using the engine cut out switch, that
    is on the handle bars to much.

    It was explained = It's to do with the correct power down procedure for the
    microprocessor inside the igniter / (cdi) likened to pulling the plug on a
    PC. Instead of pressing the turn off button, does this sound accurate?

    I have used /worn out 4 ignition coils 3 Gill and 1 PVL in 8500 miles...

    Well to be fair the first one lasted 4500 miles so that's 3 coils in 4000
    Guest, Oct 19, 2009
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    huh? Sounds like a load of old shoe repairers to me.
    Simon Wilson, Oct 19, 2009
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    YTC#1 Guest

    Only when I crash it.

    I always feel that ignition keys are good enough for cars, and therefore
    are good enough for my bike.

    I always thought the main use for it was when you wanted to make a lot
    of noise in a tunnel.
    YTC#1, Oct 19, 2009
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    Eiron Guest

    A SOB kill switch will be in the 12v line, in series with the ignition switch
    so it makes no difference which one you use, except that the kill switch leaves
    all the other electrics live.
    I wouldn't be surprised if the kill switch, or the ignition switch, on a new bike
    just sends a signal to the ECU to stop playing.

    I've only ever used the kill switch by accident, to cause embarrassment in public. :)
    Eiron, Oct 19, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    I almost always use the key. Mainly to prevent that feeling of despair
    when it won't start. The elation on realising it is just the kill switch
    is bad for the heart.

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    Pete Fisher, Oct 19, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    Always the ignition, unless I'm somewhere hot on the MV & stop it at
    lights/toll queues.
    It sounds like total wank at first glance, *but* I was warned very
    strongly not to use the kill switch on my T4 Tiger as doing so could
    **** the alarm. OK that's not the same thing, but T4s also have a bit
    of a reputation for killing the middle coil, but mine never has. I'm
    now wondering if there is something funny with Triumph electrics, & all
    those T4 owners with coil problems use the kill switch regularly.
    Krusty, Oct 19, 2009
  7. If that's not complete and utter bollocks it definitely should be.
    Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot, Oct 19, 2009
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    Tim Guest

    I use the k/s a lot on my 1999 Tiger and (tempts fate) there have been
    no problems to date. I don't use it every time, but often I will if I am
    farting about with luggage because switching off with the key only
    leaves a few seconds before the alarm arms itself.
    Tim, Oct 19, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    I've not heard of T7s eating coils, so I'm not surprised.
    Krusty, Oct 19, 2009
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    Tim Guest

    Good, ta.
    Tim, Oct 19, 2009
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    Guest Guest

    Has anyone any suggestion why my 05 Bonneville has this appetite for
    ignition coils. Indecently its also on the 3rd crankshaft pick up, this one
    is a rewind done by west country windings out of better insulated wire, so
    seems to be lasting a bit longer.
    This started just out of warrantee 4.500 miles.
    Using the Gill stuff is like feeding strawberries to a donkey!
    Guest, Oct 19, 2009
  12. Bad earth(s), alternator overcharging/dodgy voltage regulator, leaking HT
    leads/plug caps, plug gaps too big (unlikely but I'm out of ideas now).
    Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot, Oct 19, 2009
  13. You've been told wrong.
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 19, 2009
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    TMack Guest

    TMack, Oct 19, 2009
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    When kill switches were first introduced, some SOB's had the switch wired
    across the points; no points opening meant no spark and the engine would
    die. Great for batteryless ignitions but for the rest the trouble was that
    the coils were then earthed with the ignition still powered-up, which
    resulted in cooked coils.

    This only applied to v small selection of models in the late '70s - early
    80's and couldn't apply to a bike with CDI or ECU.

    It's funny how these things get written into bike folklore.
    Dave Emerson, Oct 19, 2009
  16. Thanks for that: I wasn't aware.
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 19, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    What sort of shit design allows the starter motor to spin over when
    the kill switch is off? The last bike I saw that on was a 70s 400/4.
    Champ, Oct 19, 2009
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Yeah, bad electrics was my first guess.

    And believe me, having picked up one slightly foxed[1] Guzzi V11 Sport
    last weekend and spent a morning getting it to start reliably, I know
    about these things.

    [1] not just foxed, but badgered, beared and gorilla'd too.
    Pip Luscher, Oct 19, 2009
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    SD Guest

    ISTR all my Kawasakis doing it. Go out and test the Turbo.

    Or was it all my Hondas? ICBA to check now.
    SD, Oct 19, 2009
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    malc Guest

    The whole woodland alliance?


    Rusted and ropy.
    Dog-eared old copy.
    Vintage and classic,
    or just plain Jurassic:
    all words to describe me.
    malc, Oct 19, 2009
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