haonda mechanical failure KILLS 2 riders...

TYPICAL hahaonda OVERPRICED SHIT:

http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewsArchives/2006/july/inquest_farr_july25.pdf

 

According to one lawyer trying to sue Honda. Anyone can make an accusation.
Wait till there is a verdict.

 

Motor racing can be dangerous.

I'm more interested in why the team continued the use the bike
unmodified even though they discovered that two bikes had previously
suffered rear suspension problems.

 

I'm more interested in why the team continued the use the bike

Your'e assuming that they made this doscovery BEFORE their own
incident. Nowhere does it say this.

 

Do we know how many of this model bike have been sold in Australia?
That would be 3 known issues in 'n' bikes sold.

It would also be useful to see how many incidents had been caused by
snapped chains without any factory adjustment, holes in brake hoses,
seized up engines, etc, etc.

 

Yep; there should've been heaps of witnesses who could've said whether the
bike had dropped or locked-up or somesuch (assuming the linkage failure is
the same as on some VFR750s where the back-end suddenly drops onto the
wheel).

I remember two flaggies loudly discussing the poor bugger's injuries in
very graphic detail just over the fence from where I was sitting with 13yo
gNatalie and me trying to keep her distracted so she wouldn't freak-out and
insist on flying home!

 

FWIW

You all may remember a video clip taken at the Isle of Man of a Black
Honda Fireblade totally out of control going down Bray Hill and
crashing.

The bottom shock absorber linkages had broken causing the rear of the
bike to sag to the point the rear guard was rubbing on the tyre. This
caused an uncontollable tank slapper which ultimately spat the rider
off. He suffered broken legs, arms and rib damage. He never raced
again, although he has been back to the IoM once.

I looked at the bike when it was being loaded back into his mates van
after the race was over and it appeared to me that of the two bottom
linkages one had suffered metal fatigue and it was partly fractured,
probably 60% of the way through the metal. The crack in the linkage
had obviously been there for some time because the metal surfaces were
dirty, from chain oil I presume.

Anyway there is a particularly severe bump in the road down Bray Hill.
Not really noticeable at normal road speeds - say 60kph, but at race
speeds on that part of the circuit, probably in excess of 250kph, it
becomes a real wallop which completely compresses the suspension on
most bikes.

I would say it was at this point that the semi fractured linkage
completely fractured and the extra pressure caused the other linkage
to break thus causing the crash.

The rider's mate was rather emotional and verbal about the whole
thing. His rider mate was in hospital and at that stage he knew
nothing of his condition - he looked dead when bundled into the
ambulance according to spectators on the spot.

Me and my mate helped him load the buggered bike into the van and we
got his version of the story on it. He reckons Honda UK had had
several failures similar to this in the UK at race tracks and knew
about the problem, yet had done nothing to alert owners of a potential
problem.

For me the evidence was the cracked metal fatigued linkage, but
whether it caused the other linkage to break at that time I don't
know.

I'll think of the riders name some time soon.

Kind regards
Dave Milligan

 

Yep. Remember that one. Nasty.

As a race bike wouldn't this kind of thing be getting checked on a very
regular basis?


Aaron
ZX6R

 

Depending on the metal used, and the location/structure of the
linkages, it's possible that metal fatigue was indeed invisible to the
naked eye.

 

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I dunno, I don't race, but if I did I would probably check the whole
bike on a regular basis....with the naked eye.

That said, would the crack have been visible?

So you disassemble the bike down to it's components and check each
one. Surely an xray would be required to find such a metal fatigued
crack and I doubt if even the MotoGP teams use such devices let alone
club racers in Australia.

So if you or I were racing regularly we would rely on our own
experience with the naked eye (with glasses in my case) to try and
spot such an occurrence. Even then you probably wouldn't notice the
crack.

Therefore, if these events have happened before (as apparently was the
case in the UK) you would rely on the manufacturers (who support
racing to a great extent and therefore must know about these
occurrences) to let the racers know that if under certain stresses
that failure could occur.

Or maybe they know and don't want to tell for fear of admitting fault
and the consequential litigation.

Buggered if I know, but if that's the angle the parents are following,
I can understand why.

Kind regards
Dave Milligan

 

I think if it was a design fault it would happen a lot more often. Only
3 reports of it maybe occuring ?? How many CBR600s are running around
out there ??

 

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:17:46 +1000, paulh <paulh> wrote:

snip

Are you suggesting half blind me and my $2.50 glasses don't constitute
a rigorous examination?

Kind regards
Dave Milligan

 

Come on, Hatz read it somewhere, hes never owned either!

(come on hatz, prove me wrong.. I have owned both)

 

If the past tense of lead is claimed to be led, why isn't the past tense
of read, red?

regards,
CrazyCam

One bottle of Coopers Stout to the first correct answer.

 

Bloody hell...that was quick.

When are you next in the Beecroft (Sydney) area to collect your winnings?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

It is pronounced "red". I have an English word origin dictionary somewhere
at home. It explains a lot of things.

Theo

 

Always good to read about others who survived that day. I'm pretty sure
everyone who endured Darryl Eastlake's endless drone about "the last
tribe" tried to commit suicide at some point.......

 

I wasn't. I can remember thinking who is this turkey and what drugs HAS
he been taking.

That was the most bizarre and pointless speech I'd heard in a long time.

JL

 

Foolish child, you forgot the single drinking fountain on the other
side of parliament house. They spared no effort looking after our
hydration needs.

Not to mention nearly boiling alive waiting at every f*cking traffic
light after the "police escort to parliament house" turned out not to
exist......

 

That would keep you in good stead.