Hey All

Like the bloke in Dandenong on the news this morning?
No licence, over the limit, took out a couple of posts and a car before
demolishing a 1.5 metre wall which had six primary school children sitting
on it. Fortunately none of them died but one has serious leg injuries. No
sense in allocating him any points and two years is probably not enough.

Theo

 

I've amended the speech with your recomendations. I spoke to the constable
in the police station this morning who believes everything i have written
here is relevant in showing that usually i am a good driver/rider and the
explanation of the event helps to show that i was not completely driving
without care or attention.

He expects $300 or $400 fine and probably no loss of points. I hope he is
right.

Thanks so much for your help GB. Unfortunately i am no lawyer either, so any
guidance or experience i can take from others is extremely helpful. I shall
let you all know how it goes.

Josh

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 20 May 2005 00:02:59 GMT

I was wondering if the reference was too old....

BUt then who the hell remembers that particular Prez anyway?

Zebee

 

Which particular prez?

GB, don't answer that.

 

That's why I put the "club" bit in there. Instant transformation
from mad hoon to responsible community minded individual. No
phone booth required.

GB, I probably should have left out the 'booth' reference tho.

 

Yeah well, Marko and I have been on the recieving end of a brain-dead
Landcruiser driver who had to mow me down to get to Marko, who then
immediately went into the "it wasn't my fault" blame-storming mode...

"Look at the size of the brakes on that thing,", he said pointing at the
mangled remains of Markos R1, "how could I possibly stop as quickly as
that?", clearly implying that obviously gave him some innate right to
plow his lumbering 4WD through other, more agile, roadusers...
Fortunately the cop at the scene though otherwise - unfortunately only
to the tune of a 3 point ~$180 neg driving ticket. At least that made my
insurance claim easy - Marko hasn't been so lucky, he's still undergoing
physio some 3 and a half years later...

So yeah, I have a personal issue with losers who run into that back of
other road users for no good reason, but even allowing for my bias, Josh
is clearly in the wrong. Like everyone always tells you, you run into
the back of someone its almost _always_ your fault. You need to come up
with a spectacularly good reason for it to be otherwise, and whining
that "its not fair, I was looking the other way to see if I could merge"
is, quite frankly, a clear admission of "public stupidity" - or as the
police have determined, a "failure to pay due care and attention".

If _I_ was the judge, I'd be revoking his licence, and making him go
through the whole learners/driving test/provisional licence thing again.
If he'd hurt anyone through his stupidity, then the maximum 6 months
jail could easily have looked way too lenient...

big

 

snip shitloads of good advice....>

Well then GB, may we suggest you get back to Law school - you'd be a
handy fellow to have around

Johno

Beer mate?

 

Probably the Vietnamese...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1160620,00.html

Gary

--

"As the Bush White House desperately maneuvers in Iraq to prevent the new
government from being run according to the dictates of religious
fundamentalists, it desperately maneuvers here to pander to religious
fundamentalists who want to dictate how the government should be run."

Maureen Dowd, the New York Times

 

Ended up with a $200 fine and the reccomendation that i give up motorcycles.

Thanks GB, i believe your help paid off the most.

Regards,
Josh - 00 ZX9R

 

**** me dead, you *did* do well!!!

Before you ask, three fiddy and a kick in da nuts!

*blush*, twas nothing, really Glad it was useful.


GB

 

I once had a Queensland judge tell me I was on the highway to hell!

 

Yeah, a lot of judges are closet AC-DC fans I hear...

(Josh's result just reinforces my lack of faith in any of them...)

big

 

Some one was watching over you sunshine .(more arse than class ?)

 

Good work!

-----sharks

 

It reinforces my belief in the, er, belief that it's mostly pretty
easy to get off with a bit of contrition and due deference because
they (contrition and due deference) are very rare commodities in
this world.

American television, unemployment benefits and general land rights
for gay whales have created a 'system' where dodgy wankers get to
stumble in, tell the Magistrate "Not guilty yer 'onna" and get off
whatever they did for a thousand dollar fine. You only have to steal
six or eight more televisions to pay the fine (or better yet, cry
poor mouth and get off the fine too) and you're back to square one.

So if a thousand bucks is the going rate for a drug addled f*cktard
in a singlet and shorts calling the Magistrate "poofter", then when
someone like Josh shows up, properly dressed, suitably contrite,
delivering appropriate levels of respect, using the right
terminology and generally being, well, coherent, then what the hell
is Her Worship supposed to do???

When they have a shoot-on-sight arrangement for anyone who doesn't
behave appropriately in a magistrates court, then the game will
change, but in the mean time... folks who behave appropriately
get appropriately (relatively speaking) rewarded (or should that
be dis-punished).

GB

 

JAILBREAK!

 

Wot, the Hume?...

 

An apparently famous Mexican actor, Edgar Ponce (sounds like a mate of Bobby)
was killed and three other riders injured 2 weeks ago when I car ran into the
back of the group of bikes they were riding through Mexico City while filming
a TV commercial. Link to video here...
http://www.thisstupidurl.com/edgarponce.wmv 1.6mb (some sort of disclaimer
about graphic video content here)

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Lucky bastard, I never got one of those[1] myself. Did help
a mate get one a couple of years ago tho: I was a character
witness, told the Magistrate that he was a really great
bloke and quote "his staff love him" unquote. (The absolute
truth too, he is a fantastic guy who had no business being
on the receiving end of the charge IMHO).

It went off magnificently well, *and* had lasting effect.
Her Worship quoted my testimony back as a key reasong for
finding the offence proved but not to be recorded (which is
the point of the old[2] 556A section) when she summed up,
*and* his wife was there to hear it. His wife was so
impressed that to this day she gives him a pub pass every
time he tells her that he's going drinking with GB!

GB

[1] Section 556A of the NSW Crimes Act 1900 as amended gave
courts the power to discharge an offender without
recording a conviction against them under various
circumstances and with various conditions. It is (was)
applied in situations where a charge was proven according
to the letter of the law, but where there are extenuating
circumstances: the offender is of particularly good
character, the offence is particularly trivial, etc.

[2] The aforementioned section 556A doesn't exist any more. An
equivalent function exists in section 10 of the NSW
Crimes (Sentencing Procedure) Act 1999 as amended.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/cpa1999278/s10.html

 

Iain I've _never_ been able to pay attention to more than one thing at a
time, and I manage fine

I do it by changing that 'one attention unit' from item to item to item
in a regular, systematic pattern quick enough that it gives the
_illusion_ that I'm doing several things at once.

Sort of like computers that time share rather than multi-task... the end
result is similar, but the methodology is different.

I would add that I've only had 1 serious accident, and a couple of minor
offs in 25 years, but _all_ happened when several factors combined
occured at the same time (or close enough to the same time as to make no
difference).

*shrug*
At least I'm aware of the issue, and I've developed riding skills which
tend to compensate.

I strongly suspect many people are in a similar situation, but haven't
analysed the question...

After all... (cue sterotype) How many males can multi-task? *grin*


G-S