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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by cat, Nov 26, 2008.

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    cat Guest

    Hmm, it has had a lie down on that side.
     
    cat, Nov 26, 2008
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    cat Guest

    Emailed, tersely, for want of anything sensible to say.
    Merci.
     
    cat, Nov 26, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    I have a handlebar-bending-back pole.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 26, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    Pawel?
     
    platypus, Nov 26, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    Nah, Woontfer. I'll explain when I see you.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 26, 2008
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    zymurgy Guest

    Say what. What's the chain made of ? Titanium ?

    [OBGarage markups]

    I took the Freelander in for a MOT the other day. I'd replaced a
    shagged Differential mount and one of the handbrake cables as they
    were both knackered, and it failed on front discs (X2) that were worn.

    Out of interest I asked how much to leave it there and for them to do
    it.

    ok, Discs, £40 each, pads £60, Labour £40 = £180

    I took it away and priced up the parts myself.

    £56 all in with a bit of trade discount. Including Pads [2] 1/2 hrs
    work per side. [1]

    P.

    [1] Actually about 10 mins on one side and 50 mins chiseling out the
    Camembert screw on the other side.
    [2] I know there's a bit of a mark up on parts, but over 50% ??
     
    zymurgy, Nov 26, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    **** me!

    You should see the cost of discs and pads to the factors who distribute
    them out to the dealers. I'm working for one at the moment and I'm
    honestly shocked at just how cheap most car parts really are.

    Top quality Freelander front pads are less than a tenner to a dealer,
    discs about 15 quid tops each
     
    Lozzo, Nov 26, 2008
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    Simes Guest

    I put 4 discs and sets of pads on the Range Rover (P38) total cost
    (trade price) £60. Not too dear I reckoned.

    --
     
    Simes, Nov 26, 2008
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  9. More like 250%. Fucking excessive.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 27, 2008
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  10. 4 (now).

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 27, 2008
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    Ace Guest

    PFF. In t'old days we just ran our bikes until they started falling
    apart. Chains and sprockets were only replaced when the chain would
    turn with no perceptible effect on the wheel. Oil was topped up as and
    when, but never changed. Filters were ignored. Tyres would be down to
    the canvas before being replaced.

    The idea of a 'regular service interval' wouldn't even have raised a
    laugh, just a puzzled look of incomprehension.
     
    Ace, Nov 27, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    Probably, for a new bike that you'd consider would warrant proper
    servicing. I suspect there's lots of SOBs with many more miles that have
    never had a proper service.
    "Lots", but the oil and filter stuff wasn't on a regular basis, just
    whenever he felt like causing an oil slick.
    IIRC, it had 40-odd thousand miles on it when one of the plug threads
    gave up the ghost. In that time, it probably had two "garage" services.

    Andrew changed the oil and filter a few times, and I nagged him in to
    changing the air filter once or twice.

    I don't know if it ever had the valve clearances checked.

    But the 6R was renowned for being unburstable: didn't PB (or similar)
    run one without oil until it melted the headers; after disassembly the
    engine internals were found to be within initial manufacturing tolerances.
     
    Eddie, Nov 27, 2008
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    Ace Guest

    Those motors were pretty bulletproof. My SL125 seized up on me a
    couple of times through lack of oil, but in eaxh case was fine once it
    had been left to cool for a while and ridden carefully until more oil
    became available.
     
    Ace, Nov 27, 2008
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    Lady Nina Guest

    Some of us still do.
    Ah, I'm not doing it quite right then.
    Loz tol me off though.
     
    Lady Nina, Nov 27, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    I'm sure this was a 6R, but I can't remember the magazine (AndrewR can,
    if he turns up).

    IIRC, they ran it at full throttle on a dyno to see how long it would
    last. They got bored after a while, as it showed no signs of any
    problems, so dropped all the coolant. It still wouldn't die, so they
    dropped all the oil. I've got a feeling that the headers or can melted,
    then the engine seized.

    Once it had cooled down, they stripped it and found no significant wear.
    Rebuilt it, topped up the fluids, and it ran perfectly until they got
    rid of it.
     
    Eddie, Nov 27, 2008
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    Ace Guest

    Yes, it's nice to see someone keeping up the standards.
    Than again, the chains were made out of cheese in those days, so would
    often last only 3000 miles or so (on my XT500, as I recall). Some lube
    might have helped, of course...
    Service nazi.
     
    Ace, Nov 27, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    Eddie, Nov 27, 2008
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    RCPKelly Guest

    Are they Oxford ones?

    I had some on my old Divvy last year, when they were used the glue
    used to stick them on melted slightly and it was enough to allow the
    throttle tube to slip slightly. Over time the chunky exit point of the
    wires slipped round until it was at the bottom and interfered with the
    tank.

    If this is what has happened you might just be able to twist the grip
    round a bit...

    HTH,
     
    RCPKelly, Nov 27, 2008
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    zymurgy Guest

    Oops, i'd blame a typo, but my percentage arithmetic [1] is rubbish :)

    You're right, twice the price = 100% markup ? [2]

    Cheers,

    Paul.

    [1] And for the most part, most of my arithmetic, apart from geometry
    & trigonometry.
    [2] Can you tell i've never worked in a shop ;)
     
    zymurgy, Nov 27, 2008
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    AndrewR Guest

    It went pop at 42,000 miles. It had the 4,000 mile service roughly on
    time and then wasn't touched again until 24,000 miles, when our local
    tame mechanic waved a spanner at it. I think I did one oil change
    between 4k and 24k and I did a couple after. It had one new air
    filter, one new set of plugs and, other than consumables, nothing else
    was touched.

    Damn fine bikes.
     
    AndrewR, Nov 27, 2008
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