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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Bonwick, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. Andy Bonwick

    Beav Guest

    AONTL :)
     
    Beav, Feb 21, 2011
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  2. Andy Bonwick

    ginge Guest

    I've walked around Oslo in January, when the sea was frozen. That's
    more than enough confirmation that riding a motorcycle there in winter
    requires a level of lunacy far far beyond my own.

    I'm hugely impressed with the level of commitment that it obviously
    took, even though I still think it's probably one of the most silly
    ideas I ever heard of.
     
    ginge, Feb 21, 2011
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  3. Andy Bonwick

    Krusty Guest

    That's probably why I can't buy a bike with it all on.
    So you can clean it without having to dismantle half the bike.
    Sandy/dusty roads can clog them to death in a day.
    If the damping goes, you'll still have some to make the dash for
    repairs easier.
    Not at all, a loop of small bore tubing through a pair of FatBars with
    a shutoff valve would be a piece of piss.
    I know but having one either side low down behind the crash bars would
    be better.
    You knows it Clart.
    No, it's called insurance.
    Heh. I really, really don't.
    Who takes a passenger on a long distance adventure tour? Not me that's
    for sure.
    Could make all the difference in mud & sand. The Yamahas made good use
    of their 2wd when they tested it on the Dakar a few years back. They
    only switched it on when they were stuck, & it got them out while
    others were digging & dragging.
     
    Krusty, Feb 21, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    Wasn't that a hydraulic system?
     
    Jim, Feb 21, 2011
  5. Andy Bonwick

    Scraggy Guest

    Yep, the 2 trac system was.
     
    Scraggy, Feb 21, 2011
  6. Andy Bonwick

    Krusty Guest

    Yes, a pump on the output shaft connected to an hydraulic motor on the
    front wheel by hoses.
     
    Krusty, Feb 21, 2011
  7. Andy Bonwick

    Switters Guest

    Excellent read. Well done all.
     
    Switters, Feb 21, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    AIUI the way that works is that if the rear wheel spins, the over-revving
    of the engine increases the pressure in the hydraulic system, thus
    diverting more power to the front wheel. I doubt that could be made to work
    the same way in an electrical system.

    Come to think of it, didn't Landrover have a hybrid concept car with
    electric drive for the rear axles?
     
    Jim, Feb 21, 2011
  9. Andy Bonwick

    Ace Guest

    Good guess ;-)
    Luxury. Lowest I've skied at was -35C at Jasper, at which temps it's
    not actually possible to de-ice the goggles, even if you're brave
    enough to take a glove off and use a warm finger - they will re-freeze
    in an instant, long before you can get a cloth or tissue to it. Both
    inside and out would freeze too, no matter how careful you could be
    with your breathing.

    Good job there are always plenty of nice warm ski lodges on Canadian
    mountains, is all I can say.
     
    Ace, Feb 21, 2011
  10. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    I had some kind of low temp chemical wipe which lasted a few minutes (but it
    was essentially hopeless). That was -35c on the mountain and -30c in Banff
    town and it went lower at night. It was very "dry" though.

    Nobody camped outside.
     
    Hog, Feb 21, 2011
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    Scraggy Guest

    IANAE, but a bit of research shows the system required a check every 5
    hours use and an oil change every 20 hours. Ideal expedition kit!
    I think LR had a concept vehicle for everything bar space travel, BICBW.
     
    Scraggy, Feb 21, 2011
  12. Andy Bonwick

    Krusty Guest

    Quite. It was designed for competition use, not to help you out of a
    sticky spot on a 14k mile round trip to Bhutan.
     
    Krusty, Feb 21, 2011
  13. Andy Bonwick

    Scraggy Guest

    I'm quite taken with that Dutch 800 cdi bike. Shaft drive etc, it
    requires a tad more development but has possibilities as a tourer.
     
    Scraggy, Feb 21, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    Jim, Feb 21, 2011
  15. Andy Bonwick

    Krusty Guest

    225Kgs dry weight & 45bhp? A commuter maybe, but a tourer? Not a chance.
     
    Krusty, Feb 21, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    Krusty, Feb 21, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    I'm a little confused by what appears to be an exhaust pipe on it.
     
    Jim, Feb 21, 2011
  18. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    If that's what you want to do find a good BMW traillie. I'd go aircooled
    myself just because there is less to go wrong.
    Suitably stripped of excess gear they are the right sort of weight. Low seat
    and low CoG.

    Foreign Johnny mechanics can probably repair them in a Smithy.

    Or buy an R80 P/D
    http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2329902.htm
     
    Hog, Feb 21, 2011
  19. Andy Bonwick

    Scraggy Guest

    Look, we're British, I was doing the understatement thing, hence "a tad
    more development"
     
    Scraggy, Feb 21, 2011
  20. Been done. I saw a nold Onda with the bars as the water passage.
    Could easily do that - see Chinese hub motors of 750W and upwards.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 21, 2011
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