homemade carb boots> newbie questions??

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by kundaliniratter, Aug 13, 2005.

  1. My '81 CB650 has a '79 motor, and no "carb boots" came with the motor,
    and '79 carbs. The '81 carb boots don't match up, and this stuff is so
    old, it's all cracked, etc.
    Don't see this covered in the Clymer manual, but wondering if I could
    just take measurements, and substitute some kind of hose/clamps setup
    (Home Depot?)...
    Of course, they (4)would have to be impervious to gas...
    I'm talking about the carb-motor rubber pieces. I have a perfect
    airbox...
    also - any online sources for good CHEAP oil/air filters?
    I'm 53, and plan on riding this 1st bike <60 mph, 40 miles a day
    (country roads) to work...
    is it really that big a deal to buy Bridgestone tires @$140, or can I
    get by for a year or so with Cheng Shin crappy tires?
    I know - dumb ?'s, (my life is valuable), but wife is starting to stare
    when I mention tire prices, etc...
    thanks :+)
     
    kundaliniratter, Aug 13, 2005
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  2. kundaliniratter

    Matt Guest

    It seems you are asking for '79 CB650 "carb boots". Those would be
    Honda part no. 16211-426-000 INSULATOR, $19.99 each NOS plus S&H at
    partsfiche.com. Maybe you can do better than that price elsewhere (eg
    David Silver Spares?), but that would be an easy way to go. Anyway set
    up a free account at partsfiche.com so you can look at their CB650 parts
    diagrams.

    If that's too expensive, set up an ebay search to email you when
    somebody parts out a '79 CB650. Email the seller and for all I know you
    can pick up all four insulators used for $15.
     
    Matt, Aug 13, 2005
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  3. kundaliniratter

    Matt Guest

    Matt, Aug 13, 2005
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  4. Okay - going w/Bridgestones and the link for the carbs - you guys
    THANKS for taking time to help!!
     
    kundaliniratter, Aug 13, 2005
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  5. Cheng Shin is trying to get rid of the bad reputation they got from the
    motorcycle snobs that used to just automatically replace ANY Asian
    original equipment tire with a so-called "premium" European tire. It
    was tire racism, is what it was.

    Now Cheng Shin is coming back as Maxxis and SuperMaxx. Some of the
    latter tires are actually rated for higher speeds than the "Z" rating,
    which is 150 mph continuous speed...

    Cheng Shins are not really *that* crappy, you just have to understand
    that inexpensive natural rubber tires do their best work when you ride
    straight up. Are you going to be riding to work, or trying to see how
    fast you can corner and how far you can lean?

    Bridgestone published their "Introduction To Motorcycle Tires" pamphlet
    on their Japanese language website so it's hard to find.

    Bridgestone said that they add a lot of synthetic rubber to their tires
    so
    they would resist being torn up by cornering at large lean angles where
    they get scrubbed sideways. Are you going to be Ricky Racing to work,
    or commuting?

    Bridgestone also adds silica (sand!) to the rubber for better wet
    traction. Are you going to be riding in the rain?

    Bridgestone also said that natural rubber was good for its stickiness,
    but it just wasn't good enough for sportbikes leaned over to 50 degree
    angles, when the molecules are rubber are being ripped off the tread
    surface by the sideways scrubbing force.

    As motorcycles "improve" and became faster and more complex, motorcycle
    tire technology has had to change to keep up with demand for more
    cornering performance and the ability to withstand a lot more power
    going through them to the road.

    Price has always been a factor in everything I purchase for my
    motorcycles. I want value, I don't follow magazine fads.

    I've probably tried every tire manufacturer you can imagine over 43
    years of riding. I've ridden on Continentals, Pirellis, Dunlops,
    Goodyears, Nittos, Cheng Shins, Michelins, Inoues, Carlisles, and
    Metzelers...

    I liked Dunlop and Metzelers best.

    Firestone even made motorcycle tires for a while, but I never happened
    to
    find one around when I needed a tire.

    I tried several Bridgestones when they were recommended by an
    enthusiast who also happened to be a salesman in a motorcycle
    $tealer$hip, so he had a vested interest in getting me in there to buy
    my tires at his shop.

    Of all the Bridgestones I ever tried, I only found *one* that worked
    OK, the others were disappointing. The Bridestone original equipment
    tires with strange names like "Mag Mopus" and "Exedra" were hard and
    slippery.

    A motorcycle is a queer vehicle. It steers by leaning. What a nutty
    idea!

    When engineers design cars, they do everything they can to keep the
    tread flat on the road. Motorcycle tires can only get about half of
    their tread surface on the road at any given moment. So the
    manufacturers go through a bunch of tire geometry formulae to figure
    out what size front tire of a given curvature will work with a rear
    tire of a different size and tread curvature. And the motorcycle
    manufacturers have to work with the generic tires offered by the
    various companies and maybe talk them into building
    tires with stiffer carcasses or softer rubber for their latest Elephant
    on Wheels sport tourer or Ricky Racer Replica sportbike.

    Bridgestone just keeps on trying, attempting to invent tire solutions
    that work on evolving motorcycles. If you haven't noticed, most
    motorcycles are evolving to look like sportbikes or dirt bikes, mostly
    the former.

    I didn't like Spitfire dual compound tires, they followed grooves in
    the road. I didn't like the BT-020 front tire, it's too tall and
    pointy. The back tire was OK. I didn't like the BT-45V's, they were
    squirmy.

    I was surprised to see AMA superbike racing teams like Erion using
    Bridgestones on their Hondas. Well, it was a soft rubber compound
    version of a BattleAx. Sometimes the sportbike crowd is stuck with some
    original equipment tire size and can't get anything else that fits for
    years, and so the soft rubber Bridgestone original equipment tire or a
    softer racing compound version is what is used and it gains a
    reputation as being a "good" tire.

    Good for what? Keeping your wallet empty?
     
    krusty kritter, Aug 13, 2005
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  6. WOW! I wish you would goto CBFORUM and paste this - I know $150 a tire
    isn't a whole lot, but these people swear that the Bridgestone BT45H is
    the ONLY tire anyone with a decent I.Q. would buy.
    Thank you for an interesting intelligent (time-consuming) reply...
     
    kundaliniratter, Aug 13, 2005
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  7. If you had more money than time, you'd head down to the $tealer$hip
    every year and just buy a new motorbike. The whole idea of fixing your
    own motorbike is that you're basically broke...
     
    krusty kritter, Aug 13, 2005
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  8. kundaliniratter

    Mike Guest

    Curious, where is "CBFORUM"?
     
    Mike, Aug 14, 2005
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  9. kundaliniratter

    Bob Scott Guest

    In fairness, if someone with a Laverda triple asked what tyres I'd
    recommend I'd say BT45 without a moments hesitation. They work very well
    on it & last reasonably well.

    Out of 5 running bikes in our household 3 of them are on BT45s. OTOH
    there's also one on Cheng Shins & we're pleased enough with them that I
    wouldn't hesitate to put them on in place of the BT45 if they were
    significantly cheaper...

    The only brand I won't consider using are Michelins - I've used Macadam
    50s, 90s & 100s and hated them all :-(
     
    Bob Scott, Aug 17, 2005
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