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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nige, Jul 28, 2009.


  1. Sent it again.

    I blame it on VISTA OS even when I'm not using it.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Aug 7, 2009
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  2. Nige

    boots Guest

     
    boots, Aug 7, 2009
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    Mick Whittingham, Aug 7, 2009
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  4. Nige

    Ace Guest

    Yes, it is still the standard way of ending a sentence, and means
    "please reply"
    No. When ending a conversation one would state the ship's name
    followed by "standing by". OUT wasn't even used, AFAICR, when I first
    learnt VHF protocol in the Merchant Navy back in the 1970s.
     
    Ace, Aug 7, 2009
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  5. There be a clue!

    Merchant navy radio protocol would be geared around long distance VLF LF
    HF when you are not the station in control. Hence standing by. (Long
    Range Certificate) It seems sensible to use it for VHF as well.

    Now with VHF between vessels, port control, harbour control and traffic
    monitoring, the required the sign off 'OUT'.
    This is according to the only reference I have on the subject which is:

    VHF GMDSS CEPT short range operator's certificate.

    Always welcome to be corrected but I'm sitting the exam tomorrow.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Aug 7, 2009
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  6. Nige

    Beav Guest

    Was he not wearing a "comical" T shirt with "If you can read this, the bitch
    fell off" or some such bollocks too?
    I'd just have "Go and fucking buy one then"


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    Beav, Aug 7, 2009
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  7. Nige

    Beav Guest

    It matters not, I've got it and*that's* what matters.

    I shall proceed with the burn.


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    Beav, Aug 7, 2009
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  8. Nige

    Ace Guest

    No. It wasn't. I did say VHF.
    Well I can't seem to find my 30-y-o copy of 'The theory and practice
    of seamanship', although whether it would tell me this I don't know,
    and it's quite possible my memory is not accurate in this case.
    Well clearly you need to get the answer they're expecting, so as long
    as you're confident...

    _But_, it's definitely the case that in yacht-yacht and yacht-harbour
    comms you never use 'out'. Always 'standing by'.

    At least, this is what is used by all properly qualified/experience
    sailrs, although of course you also hear 'out' used by some less
    experienced people. But it's wrong, according to the various people
    I've trained with.
     
    Ace, Aug 7, 2009
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  9. Nige

    wessie Guest

    @4ax.com:

    it's what Data uses on Star Trek TNG, so must be right...
     
    wessie, Aug 7, 2009
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  10. Oh I had that with the PADI courses:

    "That's not correct, it's XYZ not ABC!!!"

    "Yes but that ABC the answer PADI want!"

    (They're not too hot on physics or photography for example.)
    Looks a course book:

    In which case you would be under the control of the receiving station
    and would be instructed to "Stand By" on a channel other than the
    contact channel. Ending the conversation with 'OUT' other wise you are
    indicating by 'standing by' that the conversation may not be over and
    you are 'standing by' for a reply.

    What is considered over the top is replying to an 'OUT' with your
    identifier, called station, then 'OUT'. Sort of overly polite.

    Better bugger off now long way to drive.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Aug 8, 2009
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