How much?!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cane, Apr 22, 2006.

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    ChrisDC Guest

    Soon to be buried and forgotten?

    In that case I'll party with absent friends.
     
    ChrisDC, Apr 24, 2006
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    zymurgy Guest

    I couldn't GAF one way or the other what he puts on his head, he could
    use a porcelain potty for all I care.

    I was just making the point that I wouldn't personally protect my head
    in a cut price open face lid.

    For the record I also wouldn't buy a £300 Arai, but I have been known
    to lay out £170 on a Shoei.

    Cheers

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 24, 2006
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    ChrisDC Guest

    Ah. I think I need to be heavier than 105Kg for that. More pies
    required.
    I'll find out when I die. I keep an open mind (no ear plugs and an
    open-face helmet help this) because nobody's proved it one way or the
    other to me.
     
    ChrisDC, Apr 24, 2006
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    Pete Fisher Guest

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    Noise induced hearing loss is all about the 'dose' of noise. The period
    of exposure is relevant as well as the sound pressure level. The
    frequency of the noise is also important - although a simple db(A) level
    is usually enough to indicate a potential problem.

    An interesting snippet here:
    http://www.jehr-online.org/volume2/issue1/6/index.asp

    I once helped a student do some tests on hand-arm vibration level
    exposure from motorcycle handlebars. They were a bit rough and ready
    without exactly the right equipment, but they confirmed why my poor old
    digits tingle after a good thrash on the Morini,

    Those old police A65s must have been perilously close to giving
    patrolmen 'white finger'.


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    Pete Fisher, Apr 24, 2006
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    Anton Gijsen Guest

    Well said, mate!
     
    Anton Gijsen, Apr 24, 2006
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    Anton Gijsen Guest

    If you insist.
     
    Anton Gijsen, Apr 24, 2006
    #87
  8. De Reynaud's Syndrome (spelling? have I got the name right?) is a nasty
    thing here. A friend suffers from it. The combination of cold and even
    minor vibration was enough to turn her fingers quite white.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 24, 2006
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    Pete Fisher Guest

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    Correct. It can be brought on by hand-arm vibration but can also be
    associated with arthritis type disease without exposure to vibration.

    Being subject to a bit of incipient hip seizure, brought on in part I
    suspect by a hefty thwack falling off over the finish line of Hartland
    Quay hill climb many years ago, I reckon my hand problems are probably
    more down to arthritis. A daily dose of Glucosamine + Chondroitin keeps
    things moving fortunately - highly recommended! Had to get rid of the
    Saturno because I couldn't cope with the clip-ons and rear-sets any
    longer and thought carpal tunnel syndrome might be setting in.


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    Pete Fisher, Apr 24, 2006
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    ogden Guest

    Depends on the shell material. As a rule of thumb, cheap polycarbonate
    helmets are good for about 2 years of regular use, fibreglass or
    composite ones for 5 years. It's all down to decomposition of the
    plastic in sunlight, so if you keep it in a box those numbers don't
    really apply.

    I've just bought a new (99 quid) Nitro lid to replace my 5 year old (450
    quid) Arai partly because it's time for a new one, but mostly because
    the inside of the old one is absolutely fucking disgusting, doesn't have
    a removable lining and the visor's scratched to buggery.
     
    ogden, Apr 24, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    ....and the ashtrays are full.
     
    platypus, Apr 24, 2006
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    Cab Guest

    I think you've forgotten significant differences such as noise
    reduction and build quality (which I don't think "mechanism quality"
    and "longevity" completely covers).
     
    Cab, Apr 25, 2006
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    ChrisDC Guest

    Noise? My top of the range Arai was the noisiest helmet I'd had for
    years, but I'll agree build quality is usually better in the more
    expensive helmets.

    I've just bought a Caberg open-face to replace my Nolan N40 that was
    showing its age. It does what I need.

    I'll admit the Arai open-face helmets at two or three times the price
    were nice. However, I usually ride with the visor up unless it's
    raining and the Arai visors with their more pronounced prow didn't
    look designed for that treatment. Also I liked the drop-down sun visor
    of the Caberg, which the Arais didn't offer.

    The other offerings I tried were the wrong shape for my head.
     
    ChrisDC, Apr 25, 2006
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    ChrisDC Guest

    I suppose by most people's standards here I do ride slowly, but not
    the way you meant.

    Think of a big cruiser with a huge yoke-mounted windscreen that I can
    just see over the top of,

    http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/5549/iow1a3hv.jpg

    and an open-face helmet with a visor that acts like a peak, covering
    from the top of the screen upwards depending on how I tilt my head,
    plus turbulence that causes most of the wind to come from behind my
    head rather than in front.

    It's not uncomfortable to ride with the visor up unless it's raining
    hard or very cold. Hail can hurt. I have occasionally got crud in my
    eye, but not often enough to worry about it.
     
    ChrisDC, Apr 25, 2006
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    Anton Gijsen Guest

    I wouldn't worry about it.
    Aaaah, yes, of course, I see what you mean now. I get it. It's not for
    me (I don't have a screen or fairing) but I can see how it works. Thanks
    for explaining, you really didn't have to go into all that detail, the
    first paragraph was enough!

    Just hope that's not you on the Hardly!
     
    Anton Gijsen, Apr 26, 2006
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    gomez Guest

    One advantage to being a speccy. Best to wear plastic lenses rather
    than glass though.
     
    gomez, Apr 26, 2006
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    ChrisDC Guest

    It is me (in the front), and Gertrude is not a Hardly.
     
    ChrisDC, Apr 26, 2006
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  18. But I have a £300 Arai and it's the loudest, crappiest thing I've ever
    had. I think I would take my chance with his £20 Lidl lid and keep
    wearing the earplugs!
     
    Steve Fitzgerald, Apr 27, 2006
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    Cab Guest

    I've got a s/h Nolan that I'm using as a plant pot. Wanna swap?
     
    Cab, Apr 28, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    Tell her to take an aspirin a day and that'll sort it out. A guy I
    used to work with had spent about 20 years working as an underground
    fitter using pneumatic tools every day and he swears by it.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Apr 28, 2006
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