How to Corner ?

Very impressive.

 

Hooning on public roads endagers the lives of innocent motorists.

But hey, that's what we're all about. (That, and bullshitting about
it.)

We worship these idiots. We copy them. Wow.


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

You ass-u-me. Nuff said.

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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Didn't see any evidence of 'innocent motorists' being endangered. Both
riders seemed to be well in control of their respective rides, i.e. not
crossing any centre lines or similar indications of 'wild' riding.

If you say so Gerry.

Who are 'we'?

 

I beg to differ. I would say they were riding close to 10/10 on those
machines. That leaves bugger all room for errors, unforeseen
problems with road conditions, etc.

I would argue that most magistrates after seeing that footage, and
after consulting road safety experts, would find that they were riding
dangerously.

Are you familiar with the rhetorical use of the word "we"?

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Onya bike

Gerry

 

The bloke on the camera bike was wide on just about every single
left-hander in the clip; he wasn't going to go much faster without it
getting unruly.

<insert usual exhortation not to reply to the troll here - not that
anybody listens>

 

Hmmm. Hint: if the camera is on the line, the extremities of the
rider are over the line. That's not terribly smart when riding to
your limits.

But following the whats related links, one hopes the owner of
"2070 DR T" was suitably punished for being a SMIDSY dipshit:



--
TimC
"I've read that I flew up the hills and mountains of France. But you
don't fly up a hill. You struggle slowly and painfully up a hill, and
maybe, if you work very hard, you get to the top ahead of everybody
else." -- Lance Armstrong

 

Here we go again. Clem's Master's Voice dog whistles the faithful.

Give it a rest, dickfor.

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Onya bike

Gerry

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:58:25 +1000

Not that it contributed to the crash that I can see, but the rider was
way too close behind that car.

Biggest single cause of rider-at-fault multi vehicle crashes in NSW,
people on bikes who think they have superhuman reaction times and can
outbrake cars.

Zebee

 

Does that count for cages that think WE have super-human reaction times when
they pull out in front of us (across three lanes in the wet) and wonder why we
can't stop?

 

I don't think that's the same thing. Everyone has to contend with
idiots, no matter what they are driving of riding.

 

just out of curiosity, who has right of way in a situation like that?

you go to overtake several cars and the car in front of you does the
same and because of the higher acceleration of the bike the bike
bounces off the car in front

Bikes fault?

mh

 

just watching the vid again, that seem to be a clear case of running a
bike off the road, but I am asking who is in the wrong in the red car
was legally overtaking with indicator etc.

mh

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:32:32 -0700 (PDT)

I don't think there's a hard and fast rule.

Both have the duty to avoid a crash...

the car has the duty to check the road is clear before pulling out.
So did the bike indicate and give the driver enough time to comprehend
the bike was pulling out?

THe bike has the duty to signal intentions clearly and to give way to
the vehicle in front. Did the bike signal, did the car signal so the
bike could determine the intentions?

everyone gets to lie to the cops about their indicator being on.

It isn't clear to me if the driver had enough time to realise what the
bike was doing. On the other hand, it doesn't look like the driver
was keeping a good lookout.

On the gripping hand, the bike rider could have seen the cars ahead
and realised the car might want to pass them too.

Who is "at fault" I can't say. But I think it is possible the rider
could have contributed less.

Zebee

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:36:46 -0700 (PDT)

If the car had their indicator on before they started moving, then the
presumption is the bike has the duty to give way. On the other hand,
the cat has the duty of not changing direction unless the road is
clear.

Zebee
- who notes there is no right of way, only duty to give way

 

I think the car is almost certainly 'technically' at fault, from the
look of it, neither of them indicated, but the bike _was_ there first.

However, having watched it a few times, I reckon it was a miscalculated
attempt by the car to block the bike from overtaking. The car is not
moving over to overtake, it's miles behind the next vehicle, clearly not
in an overtaking position, so I reckon it's either a) a driver who is
pissed off at the bike tailgating him, and anticipating slightly too
late that the bike will overtake, and moving over to piss off the rider,
or b) probably slightly less likely that the rider knows the driver of
the car and the driver of the car is pranking, blocking their friend on
the bike as a joke and poorly anticipating the rider's accelleration.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

 

Scratch that, I should have looked at the shadows, theres a car right in
front of the red car which I didn't see. At fault party probably still
the car driver who was 'least in the right' I would suspect. Rider
absorbs part of the blame for baulking like a pussy and leaving himself
vulnerable... probably would have made it past if he'd kept accellerating.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

 

It appears that the car did actually indicate they were overtaking, but it
was one of those "start the overtaking manouver, then put the indicator on"
A happening which is occurring all too often, even when a car is following.

 

Yeah, I didin't see that other car till you mentioned the shadows.
I'll now say the rider should have been wary of the red car. The way
that car was on the brakes in the corner after closing right up on the
car in front should have told the rider that this dude has an itchy
trigger and therfore give him first dibs at passing that car in front.


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Onya bike

Gerry