HOW TO FIX A RATTLY SPADA

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Chris, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. Chris

    Chris Guest

    If you own a Spada you are probably familiar with a top end rattle
    that develops over time in these engines.
    My bike has been super rattly for the last 20-30,000k and I have fixed
    the problem completely WITHOUT replacing the 65,000k old camchains.

    This procedure only applies to the 'hydraulic' camchain tensioner
    variant in action on Honda Australia delivered models (not sure about
    the grey imports).
    The camchain tensioners on my bike work using a heavily damped spring
    system.
    However oil supply to the damper is decidedly sketchy- the
    spring/damper sits in a little bucket, fed by a tiny hole in a tube
    branching off from the camshaft oil pass pipe.
    The bucket has no drain hole in it and so grit and sludge builds up in
    the bottom of the bucket, being heavier, and causes the damper piston
    to stop working correctly.

    I took the following steps to go from a bike that sounds like a
    helicopter to one that sounds more like an electric motor:

    1. Remove rocker covers
    2. Remove camshaft holders and camshafts
    3. Remove camchain tensioners

    4. Soak both tensioner units and oil pass pipes in kerosene for
    several days, then blast the grit and shit out with a WD40 or similar
    can until the action of the cylinder is smooth and no more gunk is
    flowing out.

    5. When you're satisfied that the dampers are free of shite, pour
    clean engine oil into the 'bucket' and pump it until the kero has
    flowed out and been replaced by engine oil and it becomes very
    difficult to move the tensioner's position.

    6. Reassemble. Take care to use plenty of assembly grease and oil, use
    the correct torque values and tightening sequence and take care timing
    the engine:

    Intake valve opens: 5 BTDC
    Intake valve closes: 35 ABDC
    Exhaust valve opens: 35 BBDC
    Exhaust valve closes: 5 ATDC

    (NOTE NOT ABSOLUTE- ALL AT 1MM LIFT). However you'll be able to work
    it out using the timing marks:

    Rear cylinder:
    Align T1 mark (RHS of crankshaft); both camshaft sprocket marks
    parallel to the top of cylinder head.

    NOTE: IGN TIMING: FRONT - 232DEG - REAR - 488DEG - FRONT.
    IE: Time the cylinders with respect to eachother such that TDC on the
    compression stroke (for example), rear cylinder, occurs ~450deg before
    TDC on the comp stroke, FRONT cylinder.

    You should be able to work it out from that- make sure you carefully
    turn the engine over by hand to make sure that valve events make sense
    and mr piston doesn't dust with mr. valve before starting.

    7. Check valve clearances and adjust if necessary.

    With any luck your spada should then sound like mine: " " ; devoid of
    rattles.

    By the way at 65,000k my original (I assume) chains are still fine-
    there's enough adjustment in the tensioners to last me a while yet.


    If you any questions, just ask.

    Chris
     
    Chris, Mar 27, 2005
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  2. <snip>

    Big got his ran over then fixed the Ducati.
     
    Pisshead Pete, Mar 27, 2005
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  3. Yeah, but I just got a replacement Spada too :)

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Mar 29, 2005
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  4. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Good on you!
    What a good, cheap runabout bike.
    I was going to sell mine but I've decided to keep it, if nothing else
    as a cheap reliable backup/picking up the kids from soccer bike. (not
    quite).
     
    Chris, Apr 3, 2005
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  5. So you've "upgraded" eh? What did you get?

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Apr 4, 2005
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  6. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Nothing yet- I was offered 3500 cash for it and I was considering
    taking the cash and getting lifts to work until I could get a M900,
    900 hornet or similar but I figure I'd be pretty sad, nay, distressed,
    bikeless for 6 months. I can borrow bikes from the boss but the last
    one blew up (KLX650) so I'll leave that alone. So I was thinking of
    getting something with less k's on it to tide me thru and to keep as a
    commuter but to be honest I can't find another P's legal bike that
    really appeals to me and isn't a M620 or a big traillie. The monster
    is just too expensive, the other kind of impractical for everyday,
    100ks a day commuting.

    So I'll keep it!
     
    Chris, Apr 5, 2005
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  7. Chris

    sharkey Guest

    Big traillies are actually great commuters, but I'm not going
    to _force_ you to buy one!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Apr 5, 2005
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