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I'd like to volunteer with the wire brush and bucket of TCP.

 

Which leads neatly onto my next newbie question...

I wear full leathers when I go out, mainly because of my lack of faith
in my own abilities, but also because of the fuckwits who will knock
you off if they get a chance. Today it is too damn hot to do so
comfortably. But I want to go out on the bike.

While I appreciate it is everyone's individual choice as to how they
balance the risk/reward thing of what kit to wear, is there any point
when you think '**** it I'll be fine' or is there always that nagging
'if I come off my skin's shredded' thought?

I'm vacillating between shorts and tshirt will be fine for a quick 50
mile run and kit up and deal with the hot and sweaty atm.

 

Ouch!

--
Alex

YZF 600

"I laugh in the face of danger"

"Then I hide until it goes away"

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I always take the view that in the event of losing a lot of skin in a crash
I would feel a bit of a twat telling the nurses in IE, as they scrubbed me
with Dettol, that despite owning leathers I wasn't wearing them as it would
have been uncomfortable.

 

I have recently written off two bikes (and the cars they) collided
with) and surfed up the tarmac twice. Total damage? Lost a big
toenail in one and bruised my thumb in another. In both cases I was
wearing full protective gear but if I had not, I would probably be
looking at my thigh and elbow bones through a fog of morphine (judging
by the damage done to my jacket and trousers.

Your call, of course.

 

Two words : risk compensation.

There's little doubt in my mind that I'm more careful when wearing
jeans and a leather jacket (my preferred bike gear) compared to full
leathers. On the occassions when I've worn T-shirt and shorts, I've
been *very* careful. And, I would assert, it is possible to ride a
motorcycle in such a way that you *will* not crash, *or* be knocked
off.

Personally, I wouldn't wear t-shirt/shorts for a 50 mile trip just cos
I'd have to go too slowly. But jeans and a good leather jacket would
do me, tho I might be most comfortable with this attire cos it's what
I grew up wearing.

 

<cough>

 

That's my view. If you wear leathers then you're wasting all that time you
don't crash by not wearing them when you do.

Having said that when I can't be arsed I can't be arsed.

Also if you ride a sportsbike it looks fine to wear full leathers, on a
Bandit or similar it looks a bit like overkill. Remember that Debbie girl
who wore full leathers on a moped? (that question to Champ, Zymurgy,
Donovan, Ace, etc)

 

Conversely, I've fallen off in jeans loads of times with nothing worse
than gravel rash.

 

While I appreciate it is everyone's individual choice as to how they

If you do it will although chances are it probably won't happen.

Having seen the results first hand, personally I wouldn't and I'd get me kit
on, especially if it was going to be a 'quick' 50 miles.

 

IOU 2p

Although I do dislike the hot and sweaty (unless it's for a good reason,
of course) I personally feel really insecure if I just swap leather
trousers for jeans.

Having fallen off in both, although not at the same time, I can confirm
that there was much less personal damage in leathers. No surprise there
then.

I suppose the risk compensation brigade would say riding without full
protection makes you more careful and safer, but personally it just
makes me nervous.
I ride better when I'm not worrying, but probably go faster which will
make things worse when I do come off again.

Like I said, 2p worth.

 

Yeah , but you don't do the connecting zips up

 

Could you let me know how I could avoided my off - I'd seriously like to
know

 

gomez wrote

co-authored the book.

AOL.

 

You would have driven slower and arrived at the junction after the 206 had
left.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, dwb

Well, if you'd kept half an eye on your mirrors, you'd have seen the old
**** starting to filter. A blip on the throttle and a quick slip to the
side and all would have been well.

Your fault 100%. I think you should pay the poor old sod for his car.
--
Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL)
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Cab

That is *definitely* going to smart in the morning.

What sort of idiot pulls wheelies with a large-breasted burd on the back
anyway, eh?
--
Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL)
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

Difficult. Blaney will say that you'll be fine whatever, but that's
because he doesn't give a ****. I work on something parallel to the
risk/reward thing, but it's more based on "what chance being taken out
and how horrifically versus the PITA of leathering up and suffering
heatstroke".

After a while you'll build up a wardrobe, with a range of gear to suit
every occasion or whim. Hence my somewhat ludicrous German suit,
which appeared last Saturday. I'm happy to hoon in that because it
has big lumps of CE armour in it, yet it isn't heavy or hot to wear.
I'll mix and match between various fabric/Cordura/leather jackets and
trousers to suit the weather and the type of roads/traffic/riding I
anticipate. Each to their own.

Personally I wouldn't do shorts and Tshirt for 50 miles. I might if I
was nipping into town for a stamp or something, without exceeding 50
mph and only needing to pass a few cars and a couple of junctions.
Flying insects and bits of gravel fucking _hurt_ against a Tshirt at
speed. A stone flicked up from a vehicle in front against a bare knee
really fucking hurts. I'd think that for a medium-speed bimble along
not awfully crowded roads, a leather jacket, jeans and boots would be
a good compromise.

Bottom line is that it's your skin and your risk, because it'll be
your pain if it goes wrong - versus your sweat if you get hot.

 

....not without falling off.