I give up... maybe.

I've ridden back from London today (65 miles?) on the Pan, and found, like
with every other bike I've had in recent times, after about 30 miles, my
knees (especially the right one), has had enough, and my arse, has been
numbed into submission.

So what is the answer - I accept maybe cutting down on the pie front and
working some of my bulk off down the gym, may help alleviate the numbed arse
problem (this becomes quite unbearable after a while), but the knees which I
had looked at ages ago, and was told there was little they could do as it
was down to wear and tear?

Riding locally on A and B roads, I tend not get such bad symptoms, as I'm
moving about more on the bike - my right knee in particular, I know is now
inflammed yet again, so any more riding in the next few days will result in
aggravating it even more than it already has been.

Do I try something with an even more straight legged riding position such as
a big trailie (and which I suspect would vibrate my backside into an even
higher numbed state), or accept if I'm to keep riding bikes anywhere other
than locally, I either have to do it whilst putting up with what becomes
quite a bit of discomfort over a relatively short distance, or that I will
need to get off the bike and have a walk around every 30 mile or so???

:-(

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JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

If you do, don't get a V-strom - the riding position isn't GSX-R like, but
it's still got high pegs which mean tucked in knees.
Suspect the Pan is _much_ straighter than the DL.

Have you tried wearing a knee support type thing? One of the neoprene type
jobs to give the joint support/warmth etc - I find they're pretty good when
my knee plays up.

 

JackH wrote:

Get yourself a nice big cruiser. They're loads of fun and I found the riding
position nice and relaxing. They just don't go very fast. And if you get
one that can go fast, you wouldn't want to do any way. It's hard work.

There are still days when I'd love to have the old VL1500 back. Just not
enough to do anything about it.
--
The Judge.
ZZR1200 (Fast for a bike. Slow for a teleporter)
K1200RS (New, rotting, useless sack of shit. For sale)
Gone: VL1500LC, ZZR1100, GS1000G, GSX250
Orh+ BOTAFOT#61

 

high pegs which mean tucked in knees.

You can always put big long extenders on your handle bars and as soon
as you get on the motorway, move onto the back seat, lean back against
the box and place your feet up over the clocks. You may find tying
pieces of string onto the handle bars is enough to aid steering, like
on a home made go-cart.

Hope that this helps.

 

How tall are you? I have my Guzzi Quota coming up for sale. Fast, good
handling, comfy suspension, and heaps of legroom.

 

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:51:23 +0100, JackH wrote:

The Tiger has very little vibration. I reckon it'd be well worth trying
one, (and the competition). You'll get a nice big seat which as well as
offerring comfort means you've got room to move around a little bit.

 

Oooh, I could do with some of the pillion peg brackets for the VFR.
Katie nearly tipped us over several times trying to get on it when fully
loaded.

 

Aye, well one of those is *way* out of my budget, unfortunately, at the
present time.

Ah, now that sounds promising.

<Goes off to google>

It won't really address the numb backside issue, mind.

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JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

6'3"

And I'm not sure I'm quite ready for a life of endless electrical gremlins
just yet. ;-)

--
JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

Nope, but I shall invest in one tomorrow... that, and a family sized pack of
Glucosamine tabs.

--
JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

Hmm... 'maybe'

Guess I might collar a decent testride of something in budget, soonish.

That is, if another whinge at the doc coupled with an overdose of
glucosamine doesn't yield any results.

--
JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

wessie was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

Re R/GS - this is mainly true for the 1100 and regular R1150GS, but
not the Adventure or indeed any of the 2V models.

Re Pan - ST1100 != ST1300...

 

Worth a try, anyway

--
JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

Having been on the back of a new Tiger a couple of years ago, I was
impressed with the amount of sheer grunt it had to lug two not so small
slimline chaps along at.

Think they're still a bit out of my price range unfortunately.

<Considers the evil that is 'finance', and goes to look at what the local
dealer is listing as in stock>

Hmm... maybe I'll ask for a go on the demo later this week.

--
JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

It will help. If your legs are cramped up, you are probably not sitting
fully on your backside, so much as on the rear of it, as you slouch to fit
the bike, IYSWIM.

I have the same problem, which has not changed on the Tig.
--

Cheers!
Fr Jack
96 Tiger, 90 CB450DX
FRJACKUKRM AT GMAIL DOT COM
skype: fr.jack (without the dot)
We'll open up your eyes, just to check that you're asleep, again

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, JackH amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

Chopper

 

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:08:36 +0100, JackH wrote:

Depends what your budget is, I guess.

The older ones - different styling, with carbs not EFI - seem to be pretty
much as good. I know quite a few folk who use them. They're not all that
expensive, I wouldn't have said.

Recently, Triumph have been including a lot of accessories that other
manufacturers charge extra for. Notably hard luggage and heated grips.
Even if you're not buying brand new any recent Tiger should have them.

 

Depends what your budget is, I guess.

One option is to go to a Settee refurbishers with your seat. Get extra
padding put into it and recovered in nice soft leather. My father did
that with his GTR1000.

It also has the benefit of making your ride height higher due to
thincker seat (Upto an inch should be possible) and hence straighten
those "long shanks" of yours.

 

I was thinking more along the lines of contacting a waterbed manufacturer -
added bonus of being able to keep your piles (1) nice and warm, when out on
a bike of a winters day.

(1) I'd just like to add that I do not currently have 'Chalfont St Giles'...

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JackH

Pan European

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

Shouldn't let her drink so much.