I had a dream

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by TimC, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. TimC

    TimC Guest

    You know those dreams you have as you are going to sleep, and you
    dream that you are tripping over a crack in the pavement, and your
    body jerks yourself awake?

    I had one of those lastnight. I dreamt that a kangaroo jumped out in
    front of me. And I grabbed too much front brake.

    I guess that's a good way of learning of your riding deficiencies. (I
    learned something else about riding once by waking up in a sweat. But
    I can't remember what it was. Can't have been a very good lesson!)

    Incidentally, how does one practice handling a blowout correctly? You
    can practice all the emergency stoppies you want, but the day you
    realise you have a rapidly deteriorating tyre, and you've got to
    remember to not even roll off the accelerator too quickly, let alone
    grab any brake at all.

    --
    TimC
    I sit in a chair, pressing small plastic rectangles with my fingers
    while peering at many tiny, colored dots. -- Peter Manders
     
    TimC, Jun 17, 2009
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  2. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:47:07 +1000

    For the occasionally fast value of slow for me.

    It's never been *bang* but it has been "what was that! Damn, back end
    very wriggly, better stop carefully right now".

    Never had the front tyre lose pressure quickly for which I am
    grateful. I have had the back do it, such as when the Baby Beemer had
    its 20yo tube give up the ghost at the valve...

    That wasn't at speed, "at speed" is not something the Baby Beemer was
    really capable of. I have had the Pantah pick up a nail and lose
    pressure fairly quickly, but I did have time to think "back end very
    nasty, better stop!" and pull it down from 120 to stopped without
    difficulty.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jun 17, 2009
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  3. TimC

    xyzzy Guest

    I found the back was skating or weaving around a bit... can sometimes
    get the same feeling riding on white lines when it's wet. And the
    back kept on starting to slide out on corners without much leaning, as
    if the road surface was very greasy. I noticed them, and put it all
    down to the heavy rain at the time! =:-o
     
    xyzzy, Jun 17, 2009
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  4. I had a rear tyre blow out at around 120 kph on a country highway, ( I was
    late for work, supposed to start at 5.30 am and it was already 5.35 ), when
    I heard a loud bang and noticed the rear of the bike weaving better than a
    woollen mill,
    I started to look for an appropriate place to land on the side of the road,
    then as soon as I went into the gravel at the side of the road, didn't touch
    either brake, the bike decided to go straight as a die and slowed nicely to
    a stop.
    The worst thing was getting the bike on a trailer to get it home.

    Reminded me to not think I could get another 100 kilometres out of a tyre
    when it hit the canvas
     
    George W Frost, Jun 17, 2009
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  5. TimC

    Nev.. Guest

    With tubeless tyres, the chances of there being a leak which will very
    quickly deflate the tyre are low, and as it deflates you will feel the
    tyre wriggling a bit and have time to stop before the handling
    deteriorates too much. Most modern sportsbikes have very low profile
    tyres. The deflated tyre can only wriggle as much as sidewalls will
    allow the tread to move, so a standard 180/55-17 sportsbike rear tyre
    with very short sidewalls will track pretty truely even when it has very
    low pressure. A skinny, high profile tubed tyre on the other hand, will
    squirm around a lot, and much more suddenly.

    Nev..
    '08 DL1000K8
     
    Nev.., Jun 17, 2009
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  6. TimC

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yeah thirded!
    I've had a few car-tyre/trailer/caravan blowouts and even a pushie blowout
    (or two) but the worst I've ever had on a motorcycle was the "back and too
    sloppy... better slow down" situation described previously. (Although; being
    so pig-headed, I'd generally push on for my second or third slide before I'd
    actually concede and stop.)
    Oddly enough; the only front punctures I've had were local, 60kph
    close-to-home events that were unremarkable in every way.
     
    Knobdoodle, Jun 17, 2009
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  7. TimC

    F Murtz Guest

    Ever had a valve stem pop out completely in a rear tyre with an
    inexperienced pillion on the back riding slowly in traffic?
    I managed to stop, the pillion stepped off and the bike fell on my left
    leg causing median meniscus damage.
    It was almost 50 years ago but I seem to remember it was trying to ride
    on oil
     
    F Murtz, Jun 17, 2009
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  8. TimC

    F Murtz Guest

    fixed it left out a like.
     
    F Murtz, Jun 17, 2009
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  9. Same here. On one occasion on a deflating tyre in the drizzling rain
    on country sealed roads but with the occasional dairy crossing, I was
    being Clem's pighead and trying to keep up with my mate depsite the
    budgie's rear end sliding out everywhere until we stopped to wait for
    the others to catch up and Muck noticed that mt rear tyre was
    steaming. From flex, as it only had 6 psi in it.

    The other two times were around town and nail through rear. Back end
    starts to feel funny but in both situations I was within 5km of a bike
    shop and just rode gently to the shop and got the tyre fixed. I think
    because it isn't a catastrophic deflation, you probably go further
    before realising it as the effect slowly builds up on you.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Jun 18, 2009
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  10. On Jun 17, 9:33 am, TimC <-
    astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:

    <<<<<I had a dream>>>>>

    "That all men will be created equal", is that what you where trying to
    say? [Quote Philip Mazzei, NOT Martin L. King!]
     
    PaulpULVITZKA, Jun 18, 2009
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  11. Gawd, typo central . . . I blame this new keyboard.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Jun 18, 2009
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  12. No, his dream was wetter than that.

    --

    - KRudd at his finest.

    "The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
    - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

    "This is the recession we had to have!"
    - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

    "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
    general!"
    - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
    appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
     
    Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF, Jun 18, 2009
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  13. TimC

    G-S Guest

    I had a rear blowout on the T140 triumph and that had tubes, it happened
    in a couple of seconds in a left hand uphill sweeping corner.

    The rear suddenly started weaving then waving then swinging wildly from
    side to side.

    I managed to stop without coming off somehow.

    I've only ever had a slow deflation on the front (tubeless).

    There was a guy who was killed just south of Kyneton a year or two back
    on an old brit bike (a Norton I think) when pillioning and his front
    tube burst.

    He was thrown over the bars at 110 with an open face helmet and a brando
    jacket with what amounts to no warning.

    I do NOT miss tube tyres on motorbikes....


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 18, 2009
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  14. TimC

    BT Humble Guest

    I had an abrupt loss of front tyre pressure on a motorbike once:

    http://www.humbletown.org/temp/1995.htm


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jun 18, 2009
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  15. TimC

    Nev.. Guest

    Nev.., Jun 18, 2009
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  16. TimC

    BT Humble Guest

    At least he had a full head of hair!


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jun 19, 2009
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  17. TimC

    G-S Guest

    I didn't realize a blow out was what caused your off BTH...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 19, 2009
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  18. TimC

    BT Humble Guest

    It wasn't (at least so far as I know - I woke up in the hospital).
    The front rim got squashed when it hit something pretty hard. Once it
    was fitted to a replacement rim the tyre held air again.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jun 21, 2009
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  19. I had a blow out in the dunny at the pub once. **** it was loud. The
    blokes in the next bar thought someone was shooting up!

    I've got tubed tyres (and two car tyres) on my bike but have never had
    a sudden enough drop of presure to be a concern.
     
    Pisshead Pete, Jun 22, 2009
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