I have to ask this..

How many point can you accumulate before you get banned in Germany?

It's fairly well known that so far as the German authorities are
concerned a couple of regular posters to this newsgroup have 'points'
on their licences and idle curiosity leads to me ask if it's 12 points
as in the UK or less. One or two of those previously mentioned regular
posters might be going back to Germany in the next month or so and I'd
like to be able to tell those posters that they've either got to be
very careful because they could end up in court and banned from
driving if they get nicked for a minor offence or they might have
plenty of scope for bad behaviour with no fear of having their bikes
impounded because they're disqualified.

I'm only asking because they're friends and I'd hate to see them
sitting outside a German police station wondering how the **** to get
home. I'm not one of those bad people who break traffic laws in other
countries and expect to get away with it. Oh no, not me.

 

But since there's no reciprocal agreement for driving offences between
EU governments (yet), I can't see how these 'virtual points' are
enforcable. Either you have points on your licence, or not. In the UK,
you do not, no matter what the Boche say.

This is the reason for the fine and/or threat of impounding the
vehicle, that is punishent that they /can/ enforce on you.

Still. I'm no EU motoring law expert, nor can I recall the contents of
the stiff letters you received ...

Paul.

 

You mean his friends received, surely? ;-)

 

I'm not sure how best to say this, but there's probably a tub of
Zyklon B with your name already on it.

 

I doubt if they're concerned about the points being transferred to a
UK licence, it's just that the Germans seem to think they've got
points 'in the bank' so to speak and given the Germans tendency to be
a bit officious it might be nice if they knew how much scope they'd
got when it came to speeding and only paying a fine.

I don't know why you're trying to bring my travesty of justice into
the conversation btw, they didn't have me on film and I only pleaded
guilty so they didn't steal the MV.

 

IIRC They create a german licence for the purpose of adding points,
it'll exist on their system and I'd imagine reference the uk licence
and passport number in a way that a determined bosh-cop could use.

 

An outright ban carries over to other EU countries does it not? though
perhaps only from your motherland to others rather than the reverse.

It's worth investigating before the return all the same, Timo must know.

I expect it isn't something to push very far. Hence I haven't driven in the
RoI for some time, them having 3 cage counts and one of them for something
not unlike double the m-way limit.

 

18, by the looks of it.

"Friends" that look awfully like you, right?

They can still impound your bikes for stupid stuff or for the bikes not
being roadworthy and enough other reasons.

 

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There are any outstanding fines, it's just that three points were
given and 'held on a register' in case of future misdemeanours so it's
only really a case of knowing how many you can get before they ban
you.

If you're allowed 12 points as you are in the UK then there shouldn't
be any need to behave but if it's 6 points and you can be given them
for construction and use offences the same as here then those posters
might want to check their bikes over very carefully in case a speeding
offence escalates into some serious point gathering.

 

That leaves plenty of room for misbehaviour.

Might do. One might also have a big nose and ride a BMW but they might
not.

That's one of the reasons why the poster who looks like me might be
careful when he decides which bike to take. One of his vehicles was
involved in a bit of an incident on a previous occasion and if the
number showed up on the plod computer there might be issues.

 

Depends, you can accumulate those pretty quickly, especially for C&U
stuff. But generally, it used to be a little harder than it is in the
UK.

Given that this is Germany and doesn't involve DVLA computers, you^Wyour
friend should probably assume it does.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_system_(driving)#Germany

 

Hang on a cotton-picking minute, surely a chap would torch his steed &
make for the hills should such a situation occur?

 

You only say that because yours repeatedly tried to torch itself.

 

As long as P^h^h^h insurance processed the woman's claim correctly there
should be no issue.

--
'Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit
CO2-A load of hot air

 

It's 18, apparently. Things get a bit weird as you accumulate points and
things like mandatory group therapy sessions make an appearance.

I've just checked the Italian system and I'm disappointed to see that it
takes 100 demerit points to be disqualified. All of a sudden the
prospect of getting 18 in one go doesn't seem so exciting.

 

Yeah I should've spent more time tweaking the self-destruct mechanism
before heading for foreign shores. I won't be making that mistake again
(until the next time).

 

Repeatedly? I thought it was a one-off self-immolation attempt?

 

There was a time I could have provided you with a 1Kt self destruction
mechanism. It's a nice idea to have incorporated in the tank or seat.

"we ev to impound your motorrad"
<twiddles fingers>
"Up yours Adolf"
<checks watch>

--
'Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit
CO2-A load of hot air

 

You can't actually process something that doesn't exist which is one
of the reasons why my friend is a bit concerned.