I Wonder

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Zeb Johnson, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. Zeb Johnson

    Zeb Johnson Guest

    Where we got the telling stories in song from?


    Legend has it that the song first appeared as a nursery rhyme ridiculing
    England's Oliver Cromwell as "Nankee Doodle."
    In America the song surfaced during the French and Indian War when the
    colonials joined forces with General Braddock at Niagara. The colonials
    were a motley crew, wearing furs and buckskins. British surgeon Richard
    Schuckburg during that war reportedly substituted new words for the old
    Cromwell song, changing Nankee to Yankee, making fun of the Americans
    fighting alongside the British troops.
    In the song: "Doodle" refers to "a sorry trifling fellow. A fool or
    simpleton." "Dandy," on the other hand, refers to "a gentleman of
    affected manners, dress and hairstyle." "Macaroni" was not a reference
    to the pasta but to "a fancy style of Italian dress imitated in England
    at the time."

    The song expressed the perception of the British that a colonial could
    stick a feather in his coonskin cap and think he was as fashionable as
    any European. Thus the song was a parody proclaiming the colonials as
    country bumpkins.
    Though the song held them up to ridicule, the colonials adopted the song
    as their own. Countless versions evolved, as many as 190 verses in all.
    In a display of irony.... when the British surrendered their forces at
    Yorktown to end the War, their band played "The World Turned Upside
    Down." The Americans played "Yankee Doodle."
    The colonials may have been an army of ragtag farmers & under-equipped,
    under-clothed and rarely paid. But they defeated the largest, most
    powerful army in Europe to gain their freedom.


    http://niteliteson.com/oldtimecountry/Cal Smith~Country Bumpkin.wav
     
    Zeb Johnson, Feb 27, 2011
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  2. Apart from the reference to Europe, almost word for word from any book of
    merkin history for the last 50 years.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 27, 2011
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  3. Zeb Johnson

    muddycat Guest

    It's just another webtv mong who discovered the inhternet. Hardly worth
    the effort.
     
    muddycat, Feb 28, 2011
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  4. Obviously you know much more about this than I but why are you all calling
    mongs web TV mongs these days, is there some sort of subtle difference I
    am unaware of?
     
    steve auvache, Feb 28, 2011
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  5. Zeb Johnson

    Krusty Guest

    Yes - everyone who uses WebTV is a mong - not all mongs use WebTV.
     
    Krusty, Feb 28, 2011
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  6. Uncharacteristically for ukrm it seems that the simple explanation is in
    fact the correct one. Although...

    Googling around to find more information I noticed that Top Gear is not a
    part of the webtv output, which only serves to reinforce your assertion
    but I did come across this:

    http://www.expatshield.com/

    which may or may not be of some use to the expats out there.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 28, 2011
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  7. Zeb Johnson

    SIRPip Guest

    If it keeps the fuckers out, I'm all for it.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 28, 2011
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  8. Zeb Johnson

    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    Well, it sure as hell kept me out!

    Hmm, Brunel seem to have served up an image so I can't cut-n-paste
    their text! ...or disabled my mouse buttons...

    http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~eesridr/naughtie.JPG -- We have the technology!

    --
    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Ivan D. Reid, Feb 28, 2011
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  9. Zeb Johnson

    SIRPip Guest

    Oh, no you don't: 404.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 28, 2011
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  10. Zeb Johnson

    Catman Guest

    That would be you. It's fine here.

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    #www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, Feb 28, 2011
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  11. Zeb Johnson

    SIRPip Guest

    It's still doing it to me.
     
    SIRPip, Mar 1, 2011
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  12. Zeb Johnson

    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    It's not, by any chance, saying "This page is unavailable at Brunel"?

    --
    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Ivan D. Reid, Mar 1, 2011
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  13. Zeb Johnson

    Krusty Guest

    Haha **** I hope so.
     
    Krusty, Mar 1, 2011
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  14. Zeb Johnson

    SIRPip Guest

    It is. I would have reproduced it, but it won't copy and then I ran
    out of enthusiasm.
     
    SIRPip, Mar 1, 2011
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  15. Zeb Johnson

    SIRPip Guest

    <sees error of ways>

    Bugger.
     
    SIRPip, Mar 1, 2011
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  16. Zeb Johnson

    petrolcan Guest

    LOL
     
    petrolcan, Mar 1, 2011
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  17. Zeb Johnson

    Krusty Guest

    OMFG LOLOL & other similar teenage girl reactions.
     
    Krusty, Mar 1, 2011
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  18. Zeb Johnson

    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    YT*T*C! :)

    --
    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Ivan D. Reid, Mar 1, 2011
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  19. Zeb Johnson

    SIRPip Guest

    <proud>
     
    SIRPip, Mar 1, 2011
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  20. Zeb Johnson

    SIRPip Guest

    <proudness subsides>
     
    SIRPip, Mar 1, 2011
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