Idiots doing U-turns

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by BNM, Aug 5, 2003.

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    BNM Guest

    I was riding along on a twisty road yesterday with a passenger and was
    coming up behind this volvo station wagon when they pulled over to the
    side of the road... Not too unusual, it's not oncommon for a car to
    pull over to let a bike past. Then as I'm just about to pass their
    rear bumper their nose starts swinging out into the lane....shit,
    they're doing a u-turn! I accelerated past them before they could
    block the whole lane... it wasn't too close but only because the
    driver didn't agressively perform the U-turn. Still, I don't like
    being in a position where a driver could have acted differently and
    ended up nailing me!

    I went back over what happened and realized a few things..

    1. When they first pulled over, I remember thinking that it was a
    little odd that their angle towards the side of the road was more than
    I was accustomed to seeing with drivers pulling over to let a bike
    past. I later realized that this was a giveaway to their next action,
    as they were getting into position for a hard circle.

    2. They swung closer to the very edge of the road than I was
    accustomed to for a car letting a bike past... another thing to
    remember as a possible heads-up that they aren't just pulling over to
    let you past.

    3. I also realized that I was a little distracted by having my
    passenger on board, and while I was riding much slower than I would
    have if riding alone, my focus was a little split so I wasn't
    processing the environment around me (Other drivers) as fast as I
    normally would have......lesson learned, even if riding slower with a
    passenger, if I'm not keeping 100% focus on my riding it is probably
    less safe. :-\

    Just thought I'd share that experience/thoughts with the idea that
    somebody might add the experience to their list of 'things to watch
    out for'. I pride myself on being an alert skilled rider but could
    have gotten taken out in this....glad I learned this lesson without
    payinga price for it!
    Brett
    01 Yamaha R1
    89 Katana 750
     
    BNM, Aug 5, 2003
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    bob prohaska Guest

    For some reason Volvo's deserve more than normal scrutiny.
    Perhaps this is a practical reason for the little "thank you" beep
    many overtaking drivers and riders offer.
     
    bob prohaska, Aug 5, 2003
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    Andrew Guest

    Andrew, Aug 5, 2003
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    Janik Colby Guest

    All Volvo drivers are idiots, bar none. When I see a Volvo I get as far away
    as I can and NEVER assume anything about what the driver will do next.
     
    Janik Colby, Aug 5, 2003
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  5. hey, I resemble that. My wife drives a Volvo S90, and sometimes I have to
    drive her old 240 (which is our spare car).
     
    John R Pierce, Aug 5, 2003
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    Rich Guest

    It rarely is, but I've been cut off by the same Buick on two separate
    occasions. I'm sure that it is the same because it had consular
    plates.


    R, UB
     
    Rich, Aug 5, 2003
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    BNM Guest

    I was riding along on a twisty road yesterday with a passenger and was
    I was not going very fast, they had partially repaved the road so I
    didn't trust the traction due to the black material that came off the
    new surfaces and onto the old pavement in between. I suspect that
    most of their attention was to find a good place to turn around and if
    they looked behind they probably didn't do more than a quick glance.
    Agreed, my biggest mistake here was to assume that he was pulling over
    to let me pass. I normally would never trust them that much but as I
    mentioned earlier the biggest lesson that I took away from this
    experience is to never compromise your 100% focus when riding, which I
    had done by allowing myself to be distracted by the presence of my
    passenger.
    I considered using my horn but decided against it because I didn't
    want to risk startling the driver into doing something out of panic
    and hitting the gas by mistake when they intended to hit the brake and
    I was too close at that point to do a 'hey I'm here' honk.
    Brett
    01 Yamaha R1
    89 Katana 750
     
    BNM, Aug 6, 2003
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  8. A couple of years ago, an elderly couple drove off the road near there
    and were stuck for several days until they were rescued.

    The biggest problem was that when they called for help on a cell phone,
    they believed they had been traveling on the Montague expressway when
    and got stranded in the woods. Uhh..lemme see now, Montague is a flat
    6 lane expressway with stoplights, 20 miles away and running through an
    urban setting while they were on a 2 lane rural mountain highway running
    through groves of redwoods. Easy to confuse the two I guess.

    So yeah, a Volvo on Skyline whose driver gets lost all the time and never
    realizes that there are motorcycles on that road is a possibility that
    I certainly wouldn't rule out.
     
    r_kleinschmidt, Aug 6, 2003
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    Y2KYZFR1 Guest


    Get thee some headlight modulators, makes this kind of thing _almost_ non-exsistant!
     
    Y2KYZFR1, Aug 11, 2003
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    BNM Guest

    Get thee some headlight modulators, makes this kind of thing _almost_ non-exsistant!

    I've heard that advice from several people now. My biggest question
    about a modulator is what does it dobut the life of a headlight?
    Brett
    01 Yamaha R1
    89 Katana 750
     
    BNM, Aug 11, 2003
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  11. Reportedly very little, as it never turns the bulb on or off, but
    cycles it within a given range, but no hard evidence.

    I do have one, it's REALLY annoying in a rear-view mirror.
     
    Nicholas C. Weaver, Aug 11, 2003
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    Bubba Guest

    Actually it's legal as long as it's not posted that you can't do it.
    Kinda like U turns, except in intersections.

    Steve
    95 Buell S2
    96 Kawasaki ZX7R
     
    Bubba, Aug 11, 2003
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    Timberwoof Guest

    Yes, I've noticed that. Definitely.
    What, to pull over to let you pass?
     
    Timberwoof, Aug 11, 2003
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    Brandon High Guest

    I've also noticed that while lane splitting cars are more likely to
    squeeze over and make room. If you drive in traffic, it's my opinion
    that a headlight modulator is a good idea. Bikes should come from the
    factory with them.

    -B
     
    Brandon High, Aug 12, 2003
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  15. I've found similar results by simply upping the brightness of my front
    end... I replaced my stock 55/60 H4 headlamp with a 90/100W (using relays
    and heavy gauge wiring), and I added a pair of 55W foglamps, and folks
    seem to see me better. I have it all carefully aimed so no glare is in
    anyones eyes, but my highbeam can burn holes in boilerplate :D

    -jrp
     
    John R Pierce, Aug 12, 2003
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  16. According to my last MSF isntructor, a recent study showed 3 things
    that were roughly equivelent in increasing visibility, they are
    (not a ranked order):

    Headlight modulator,
    Leaving Heading on high beam during the day
    brightly colored bike/clothes/jacket/helmet

    Bruce
     
    Bruce Hartweg, Aug 13, 2003
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  17. so a bright(!) headlamp combined with fog lights (arranged to form a
    triangle not disimilar to the profile presented by a lot of Harleys), my
    bright red bike, and my bright silver helmet ought to be good for
    something, eh?

    :)

    -jrp
     
    John R Pierce, Aug 13, 2003
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    barbz Guest

    Especially if they have a PBS sticker on them. Makes you wonder...
     
    barbz, Aug 13, 2003
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