I'm glad I didn't drive to Pembrey

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Paul Carmichael, Sep 7, 2003.

  1. Team's on it's way home. I expect the full story will appear here when
    they get home.

    Sad.
    --

    Paul.

    Ooh look, bikes and numbers and stuff!
    CBR1100XX SuperBlackbird
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    RGV 250
    BOTAFOT #4
    BOTAFOF #30
    MRO #24
     
    Paul Carmichael, Sep 7, 2003
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  2. Paul Carmichael

    dwb Guest

    Oh dear.

    Champ's going to go bankrupt trying to get that bike running.

    As Darsy says, I do wonder if a stock CBR600 might not have done a little
    bit better all things considered :)

    That is assuming it's broken down, rather then somone doing a Porl.
     
    dwb, Sep 7, 2003
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  3. Paul Carmichael

    darsy Guest

    I keep telling them they need a nice reliable Honda, and none of this
    kawacrapi shite...
     
    darsy, Sep 7, 2003
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  4. Not the cams? :-/
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 7, 2003
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  5. It's a trade-off between reliability and speed, as ever.

    Ducatis have never won a 24-hour race because they ain't reliable
    enough. A stock ZX7R wouldn't because it's not quick enough.

    I think Suzuki have built the only endurance bikes that have ever been
    near-competitive in stock trim - early GSXR750s, and GSXR1000s in their
    class today, come to mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 7, 2003
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  6. Paul Carmichael

    Ginge Guest

    It might. ISTR they run a BSB spec close ratio gearbox in place of the
    standard one.
     
    Ginge, Sep 7, 2003
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  7. Paul Carmichael

    Simian Guest

    Simian, Sep 7, 2003
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  8. Paul Carmichael

    Alan.T.Gower Guest

    That's dreadful news.
    Last year's bike was very reliable, it was us riders that caused the
    problems.
     
    Alan.T.Gower, Sep 7, 2003
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  9. Paul Carmichael

    Alan.T.Gower Guest

    You need to be competitive and there's little doubt that last year's
    bike was being left behind a bi, however, it was very reliable.
    It wouldn't IMO. However, it would need some modifications to do
    endurance racing.
     
    Alan.T.Gower, Sep 7, 2003
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  10. Paul Carmichael

    christofire Guest

    I'll share in their disappointment. I'd like to see the team do well.
    Seeing, reading and hearing about the effort that goes in is inspiring.
    Yep - but there can't be much else that can go wrong. It's got to be
    mostly fixed/replaced by now, so roll on Oulton.
     
    christofire, Sep 7, 2003
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  11. Wow.

    So the question is:

    How did the camchain tensioner manage to extend itself to nearly-max,
    when we compressed it, bolted it in, and then inserted the tensioner rod
    and spring????

    Alternatively, of course, when the broken cam end jumped out of
    position, that would have put more slack in the chain and the tensioner
    would have extended then.

    So we still don't know if the tensioner was at fault....

    <Goes away to have another think>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 7, 2003
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  12. Yes, I was thinking of the later oilcooled Slingshots.

    The 1985-era bikes used to let go catastrophically (especially for the
    field following them as the very high-flow oil system dumped the entire
    sump contents in a nanosecond).
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 7, 2003
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  13. Paul Carmichael

    Cane Guest

    Someone's glass is half empty ;)

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    Cane, Sep 7, 2003
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  14. Paul Carmichael

    porl Guest

    They could always go back to crashing.
     
    porl, Sep 7, 2003
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  15. Paul Carmichael

    Alan.T.Gower Guest


    Absolutely.

    One good point if the bike's broke you can't crash it.
     
    Alan.T.Gower, Sep 7, 2003
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  16. Paul Carmichael

    christofire Guest

    Not really, but then again I'm not pushing Zimmer-owning age. :p
    Oh yes, I realise this. I thought a bit of blind optimism might help
    out when they get back and get round to reading ukrm, but you've gone
    and blown that one...
    ....with a cracking story.
     
    christofire, Sep 7, 2003
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  17. Paul Carmichael

    christofire Guest

    But mechanical failure seems to be the in-thing this season, and as
    they're doing so well why go retro?
     
    christofire, Sep 7, 2003
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  18. Paul Carmichael

    Muck Guest

    I didn't realize that the end of the cam shaft was supported in a ball
    bearing, maybe it's just that the ball bearing cage broke up, letting the
    end of the shaft waggle about until it whent and broke?
     
    Muck, Sep 7, 2003
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  19. Paul Carmichael

    Muck Guest

    The part of the cam chain between the exhaust cam and the crank would be
    under tension, yes true.
    You've pretty much ruled out anything that you did. All by the book, which
    is all you can do.
    It's seeming more and more like a case of shit happening[1].

    [1]Although that was my first thought and my current thinking also.
     
    Muck, Sep 7, 2003
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  20. Paul Carmichael

    porl Guest

    Maybe they've just run out of ideas on that theme, Sweedy.
     
    porl, Sep 7, 2003
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