I'm Sure ...

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus

Tell us more about your interest in under-age felines.

 

What amazes me is that if you bang on in Usenet in even the slightest
bit less than complimentary way about the whole Zionist conspiracy thing
you get nutter's come crawling out of the woodwork in their masses from
all over to issue death threats with the blessing of the rabbit but not
in Des's case. Even they don't want him istm.

 

I don't know if this is true, I never witnessed anti-jewish sentiment in
Britain, anti-muslim feelings were more prevalent. Then again I didn't live
there that long so I can't tell for sure. If this is true, I think it's
unfair, particularly since Jews living abroad are generally better
integrated than Muslims, in my experience anyway. Then again most Jews have
been living "abroad" for several generations and are not lower-class
financial immigrants with little education. Regarding Britain, all this PC
nonsensical attempts to try and keep everyone happy regardless how
unreasonable they may be, isn't doing anyone any favours. I just hope the
media are over-sensationalising the events.

I don't disagree, I actually presume that Palestinians hate Israelis much
more than the other way round and we can both guess what could happen if
Palestine had enough muscle to annihilate Israel. Still, under current
circumstances, they're more defenseless.

I think it's more than just different mentality, but one could argue for
days about what makes one a fanatic and still not have gone too far. I think
the world would be better without religions, but then humans would find
something even more stupid to hate each other for (see Communism vs.
Capitalism, Spurs vs. Arsenal and Coke vs. Pepsi).

Well, I'm glad they don't have the power to start of couple of
Crescent-ades, like some other guys I can think of right now. Fortunately
we're now long past that stage, although I'm not that certain about the U.S.
It's not that simple though, again we could argue for days regarding what it
is that turns peaceful, god-fearing (that's not bad per se) people into
fundamentalist bastards. And that definition partially includes the "we're
gonna make you free, regardless whether our definition of freedom isn't
really your cup of tea right this instant, or kill you trying" American
approach.

Maybe, but you can't compare them to the state of Israel. And there's no
official army attacking, just a bunch or rebel/terrorist groups (difficult
distinction sometimes), although I agree that they are tolerated or even
assisted by Hamas.

I'm not saying they're right. There's rarely a pure moral champion in a
conflict and this one is more messed up than most conflicts tend to be. I
just feel that Palestinians have got the shorter end of the stick so far.
Also, as unfair as this may be, one expects a developed nation to show as
much restraint and good will as possible, whereas you don't have the same
high expectations from a semi-functional one. Israel fails to show this good
will (to put it mildly) often enough to overshadow its positive gestures.

Obviously talk is cheap, if it were my family being shelled by extremists I
probably wouldn't be saying all this "sissy liberal crap". On the other
hand, if my family were denied a dignified living in the soil they were born
and raised, I'd be a little miffed too. I'm just glad I'm not part of this.


Geo

 

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/f/frank+zappa/jewish+princess_20056819.html


Geo

 

You're just trying to get me to say something about pussy, aren't you?

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus

<Gazes at ceiling, whistles in an off-key stylee>

 

Where was it? Duclair, IIRC.

 

In the interest of fairness,
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/f/frank+zappa/catholic+girls_20056731.html

 

As there are no such people as 'Palestinians', your point is moot.

HTH.

D.

--
des
French Biking Vocabulary: http://minilien.fr/a0kg0p

'Kaiser: "Can you prove to me the existence of G-d?"
Bismarck: "The Jews, your Majesty. The Jews"'

 

You're mistaking me for someone who gives a shit, you fucking wank.

Oh, and attack me from behind a killfile again, and I *will* make sure you
see my reply.

D.
--
des
French Biking Vocabulary: http://minilien.fr/a0kg0p

'Kaiser: "Can you prove to me the existence of G-d?"
Bismarck: "The Jews, your Majesty. The Jews"'

 

Isn't it time you went shopping?

 

More important in this context: Anti-Des does not equal anti-Semitic.

 

Right, who knows about headers?

 

Yes. At high volume during one of those general lulls in the
conversation.

 

heh, he's all grown up now.

 

Well no. But in ten minutes, I will be going into class.

D.

--
des
French Biking Vocabulary: http://minilien.fr/a0kg0p

'Kaiser: "Can you prove to me the existence of G-d?"
Bismarck: "The Jews, your Majesty. The Jews"'

 

Heh yeah something like that

 

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] !cleanfeed2-b.proxad.net!nnrp16-1.free.fr!not-for-mail

That's using a free.fr server to feed into proxad.net. whois says
that free.fr is proxad.

]Sender: desmond <>

Anonymous vanity domain registration.

]Message-ID: <>

Hmm, not sure a post to free.fr should legitimately have a yahoo.co.uk
M-ID -- reputable mailservers should strip out any pre-formed M-IDs to avoid
such forgeries. I wonder if that was done by hand or if tin forms it from
the From: address?

]From: The Older Gentleman <>

That hardly looks pukka... Again, it's trivially forged.

]Subject: Re: I'm Sure ...
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Just narcissism, nothing to look at here.

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Paranoia.

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Mac luser.

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Posting from CET region.

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Not much too it really; a simple change of the From and M-ID lines.
I'd hardly call it a forgery, it's entirely obvious whence it came.

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The Older Gentleman says...

Do French schools allow their staff to post offensive and derogatory
posts to usenet in works time?

 

Oh yes, definitely. This one is even funnier in my opinion, but my favourite
religious Zappa song is "Titties and Beer".


Geo