Insurance, again...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. Carole Nash being used for comparison purposes:

    ZX9R and ZX12R - both are £563 TPFT for me... but the ZX9R is coming
    out at over £1200 fully comp, and the ZX12R is coming in at a mere
    £791?

    Is the ZX9R that much more of an accident risk than the ZX12R?

    ZZR1100... nigh on £900 FC, £293 TPFT... one of these *surely* isn't
    statistically more of an accident risk than the ZX12R??? I appreciate
    the brakes are probably a bit lacking by comparison, mind...

    R1 and Blackbird - same prices as a ZX9R at £1223 fully comp and £563
    TPFT, yet wouldn't have thought a Blackbird was significantly more of
    a risk than a ZX12R or in the same risk league as an R1?

    Thunderace - £744 FC, £293 TPFT - this one is the worst one, as the
    price seems to change on a weekly basis!

    Fazer 1000 - £933 FC, £364 TPFT

    Fireblade 918 - £1223 FC, £389 TPFT

    And finally... VFR800FI - £326 FC, £204 TPFT - it's not *that* bloody
    slow, it has plenty of plastic to break if you drop it, yet it's
    nearly half the price of a same year, same value CBR600 which rolls in
    at £599 FC and which I know for a fact is no quicker off the mark and
    has less outright top end.

    It can't even be to do with insurance companies favouring linked
    brakes, else the Blackbird would be a lot cheaper to insure than an
    R1?

    Bring back the old Norwich Union 'CIHAGM' Rider policy - like a lot of
    things in my life at the turn of the 1990s, this was a lot simpler
    than the apparent insurance minefield I've stumbled into this evening,

    I don't give a shit about the cost... I'm just intrigued as to what
    statistics / logic they're using when pricing up bike policies today.

    'Sensible polices for a happier Britain' please, if anyone from the
    bike insurance industry happens to be reading this.

    TIA
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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    Cane Guest

    Bloody hell. I pay around £380 FC for the Blade and the Blackbird
    combined!
     
    Cane, Sep 8, 2008
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Logic? Insurance companies? Shirley you jest!
    We can but hope.
     
    Timo Geusch, Sep 8, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    Jesus - £400 fully comp for all of my bikes. Are you a 17 year old with
    a DD ban living in Liverpool?

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    Krusty, Sep 8, 2008
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    sweller Guest

    I'd imagine they're very logical - from the POV of reducing work,
    reducing risk and increasing income. Making money is, after all, their
    primary purpose.
     
    sweller, Sep 8, 2008
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    sweller Guest

    Based on statistics and risk modelling I'd imagine. Less to do with the
    machines and more to do with the type of person who crashes each type of
    bike. More high risk hoodlums buy ZX9Rs than ZX12R. ZZR1100s probably
    bought by born agains after a sensible, big bike.

    My CN multibike policy has CIHAGM cover and its modern bike rather than
    classic (the Turbo counts a modern).
     
    sweller, Sep 8, 2008
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  7. 35, full licence for eight years but never kept a bike long enough
    (i.e: always used to sell and have a sabbatical for a few months), to
    warrant getting a full years insurance and some no claims under my
    belt.

    One SP30 four years ago, one debatable 'meeting of minds' in the car
    in 2005 that cost £800.

    Point is, litre class stuff seems to have gone up a hell of a lot in
    the last few months when I've had quotes, whereas the VFR has remained
    relatively cheap by comparison given what you're getting for your
    money in terms of poke / plastics etc.
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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  8. Possibly... although I wouldn't think the Blackbird was considered
    either.
    Ah, but all bikes are declared? That was the beauty of the old NU
    rider policy - anything went up to your designated CC level, no need
    to declare what it was.
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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  9. You don't live in the 'affluent' (or should that be 'effluent') South
    East though... which may have something to do with it.

    Actually, give me a postcode of somewhere considered half reasonable
    in whippet country, and I'll do a comparative quote.
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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  10. I have no NCB at the mo though... plus IIRC you smell ever so slightly
    more of wee than me.
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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  11. Indeed... and I suspect you're more familiarised with this 'logic'
    that I, given your propensity to change one of the fleet on a regular
    basis.
    :)
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    Ah, that should be your first task then. Buy the cheapest POS you can
    find that's registered, & use it as an insurance mule to keep your
    policy going all year, every year.

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    Krusty, Sep 8, 2008
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    Cane Guest

    True, 44 this November :-/
     
    Cane, Sep 8, 2008
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    Cane Guest

    Pretty good, who with?
     
    Cane, Sep 8, 2008
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  15. But like Status Quo, still rocking eh? (1) :

    (1) How's the midlife guitaring crisis going?
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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  16. Aye, well I've no intention of not being without a bike any more...
    not unless some toerag thieves it or I finally have that big lob I'm
    long overdue. :)

    Good call, anyway - I want a C90 with grubby legshields for true old
    skool pikey authenticity ;-)

    "Paging TOG"
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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  17. That's another reason why I get quoted so high - bike is declared as
    left on the drive.
     
    jackhackettuk, Sep 8, 2008
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    Ben Guest

    My 2 month old GSXR1000 is only 350 quid fully comp :) I'm starting
    to like this getting old lark.
     
    Ben, Sep 8, 2008
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