Insurance Hikes?

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by fullstate, Feb 13, 2004.

  1. fullstate

    fullstate Guest

    Does anyone know what the legal limit is on a rate hike for motorcycle
    insurance??

    --Fullstate
     
    fullstate, Feb 13, 2004
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  2. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    The insurance company can raise the rates for as much as the traffic will
    bear.. What is the reason for the question..Assuming that the company raised
    your rates.. by how much ?

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 13, 2004
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  3. fullstate

    Brian Walker Guest

    Wow! You just got a good idea of "Texas Insurance".

    Motorcycle insurance in Texas isn't governed or regulated.

    I had a rate hike several years ago which my insurance company at the
    time (Farmer's) decided to increase their rates on me by almost
    double. I tried to find some help with TDI on this and wasn't
    successful. I postponed their increase by bluffing them and saying
    they were limited to 5% without cause. After a couple days of them
    checking, they came back and said I had an accident filed on my
    insurance. Since I had the police report and claim number on the
    accident they said, and since it was filed as uninsured...I backed
    them totally down and kept my insurance for another year until they
    jumped sky high on my homeowners and I dropped them.

    Welcome to Texas!
     
    Brian Walker, Feb 13, 2004
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  4. fullstate

    fullstate Guest

    Hey Bill -

    Yeah, the numbers work something like this:

    original premium = $583.00
    new premium = $1428.00

    I'll save you some time and do the math for you. It's a whopping
    $845.00 increase!!!! Or, you might say a 144% increase in my premium.

    No tickets, no accidents, no claims filed, and I've had this policy
    for at least three or four years, now.

    It really pisses me off!!

    --Fullstate
     
    fullstate, Feb 16, 2004
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  5. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    I can assume that next time I go off on one of my rampages about insurance
    companies ripping us off, you will be in full support.. LOL.. some have been
    very critical of my OT posts in regards to this issue..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 16, 2004
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  6. fullstate

    fullstate Guest

    Well, I have always been in support of lowering insurance costs and
    all that. I mean, I realize they have to make SOME money, but ripping
    people off is not the way to do it.

    BTW - I just spent about 1.5 hrs on the phone with progressive. Get
    this, when I called 'em over the weekend and argued with them the
    policy was not going to change.

    So, this morning I went out on the internet and got a quote online.
    It was significantly less expensive. So, I called 'em up and started
    the whole process over again. By canceling my existing policy and
    then generating a brand new policy I was able to knock $1100.00 off of
    the grand total. (BTW - there are two bikes on my policy).

    Is that crazy or what? They couldn't "fix" my existing policy, but
    they could cancel it and generate a new one with more appropriate
    rates. And yes, everything is EXACTLY the same (deductibles, etc.).

    It's still a bit more than I was paying, but I'm much happier with it.



    --Fullstate
     
    fullstate, Feb 16, 2004
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  7. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    Goes without saying that "most" people ARE in favor of saving money..
    especially when it is their own.. "Most" are not willing to fight for the
    disposition of saving money until their own is affected.. The phenomenom of
    the insurance companies ripping off the consumer is not new.. This has been
    going on for many years..
    That is always the initial response.. Very typical..
    Quite a savings there, isn't it ? How about the frustration that you should
    HAVE to deal with the matter, in this fashion..
    Of course.. many of those who can afford to pay their hard earned money
    would just put a check in the mail.. Many who don't have the means to pay
    the high and obscene costs for many of these insurance costs, have to do
    without the policies and operate their vehicles without coverage.. The
    mandated insurance legislation must be changed to incorporate mandated
    limits on the costs of the policies.. Our legislators have granted the
    insurance companies with a license to steal, and they have taken every
    advantage of it.. Yours is only one in many thousands who have first hand
    experience of the collaboration of the corporate interests and our
    government...
    I hope that you amonst others will remember your experience and support
    those of us who struggle to make our insurance legislation more equitable..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 16, 2004
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  8. fullstate

    Brian Walker Guest

    That would piss me off....

    What company? Did they give you a reason?
     
    Brian Walker, Feb 16, 2004
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  9. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    Nossir.. they work for Rick Perry..
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 19, 2004
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  10. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    Mandatory insurance doesn't have anything to do with who pays.. Whoever is
    responsible for the accident will pay.. Whether it is the individual or the
    company.. The most important question to ask, "How much are the premiums for
    comparable coverage" ? The mandatory insurance legislation isn't ALL bad..
    The problem with our legislation in Texas is, the consumer is mandated to
    have insurance coverage.. The insurance companies are not mandated to
    provide premiums at an affordable price.. There is no ceiling on what the
    companies can charge and the consumer is at their mercy since the law
    requires them to buy insurance..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 19, 2004
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  11. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    Technically you are correct.. Splitting hairs and saying that Texas does not
    have a mandatory insurance law is double speak.. How many of us have the
    financial wherewithal to provide the mandatory responsibility requirements..
    When those insurance lobbyists rammed this bill through our legislators and
    they all collaborated to sell it to the public, in Texas.. They all knew
    very well what was entailed and what the consequences would be to the
    consumers.. As it is written, those hypocritical arguments are typical of
    the nonsense that have imposed on the gullibility of every Texan who
    drives.. Yes.. Texas does have a mandatory insurance law that is biased on
    the side of the insurance industry and is at the expense of all of us..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 20, 2004
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  12. Also we need to point out that the mandatory finacial responsibility is for
    liability only. Most of the insurance hikes talked about here (including
    myself) include optional coverage which is not mandatory. I find that the
    liability insurance is affordable for those that have good driving records.
    However this is not necessarily true for those that add the additional
    coverage. Its the additional coverage that we need some kind of better
    regulations over.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Feb 20, 2004
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  13. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    Parsing the definitions of the legislation is the exercise used by the
    industry while they were pursuing the bills to mandate the consumers.. By
    searching and usually going out of state to buy the liability coverages, one
    can find "affordable" coverage for liability only.. Until the law is changed
    to include the additional coverages, you refer to, the "affordable"
    liability coverage can be increased at the whim of the insurance company..
    Settling for the propaganda created by the companies and the bought and paid
    for legislators is what sold this bill of goods to the voters, in the first
    place.. The insurance commission which is appointed by the governor is a
    joke that is designed to mislead the consumers.. yet again.. The conception
    is that if you experience an injustice by the company, all you have to do is
    to contact the commission and they will take corrective action is a LIE..
    Considering the numbers of complaints, the resolutions will invariably be in
    favor of the companies.. Anything less than overhaul of this system is an
    exercise in futility.. Fire the commission and appoint a new one, that is
    selected by someone other than Rick Perry..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 20, 2004
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  14. You got me confused on this one. Companies can't sell auto insurance to
    people in Texas unless they are licensed to do so. If your buying insurance
    from dealers who are not licensed to sell, then don't be surprised if they
    don't pay off in an accident. Most insurance companies are not based here
    in Texas, so again I'm not sure what you are talking about.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Feb 21, 2004
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  15. fullstate

    The Family Guest

    Why.... If you want to generate your own electricity at your home/
    office via diesel generators, but the government tells you that you
    must instead buy it from TXU, what are you going to say?

    Or, what if you want to send your kids to private school, rather
    than public? Can the government force you to go public?

    These so-called "loopholes for the rich" are opportunities for
    everyone.

    Besides, unless you consider the Constitution a "loophole", those
    options have to be available.


    Thanks - Gary
     
    The Family, Feb 21, 2004
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  16. fullstate

    The Family Guest

    Great point!!


    Gary


     
    The Family, Feb 21, 2004
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  17. fullstate

    The Family Guest

    Why does everything like this seem to boil down to a political
    argument(Pubs vs. Dems) with you. I don't know anything
    about the Insurance commission, and I certainly don't favor
    the insurance industry. But, I suspect that you can't supply any
    verifiable evidence that the insurance commission was any better
    under a Democratic Governor.

    Obviously, I'm not of your political persuasion, and I don't care
    or know about Perry, one way or the other. But, I'm pretty sure
    that Perry didn't implement mandatory insurance, nor do I think
    he is responsible for these uncontrolled premium problems that
    are discussed here.

    So, if you can prove that a former/future Democratic Governor
    had fixed this in the past/will fix this in the future, then I'll vote
    for them, hands down.


    Thanks - Gary
     
    The Family, Feb 21, 2004
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  18. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    Licensing is another issue altogether.. I'm not sure how many there are, but
    I understand that there are only a couple of insurance companies actually
    based in Texas.. I have had coverages from several different companies over
    the years.. If I called them, I'd be talking to someone in Wisconsin,
    Minnesota, or some other state.. Quality of the service is another issue
    (payment of claims).. My concern is for the mandated requirement that is
    aimed at ensuring the lucrative market share, for the companies..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 21, 2004
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  19. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    Just another example that politics affects your life, every day.. The party
    in control of our state house is republican.. Rick Perry is the (?) leader
    of that party in Texas.. If you believe that the political environment in
    Austin isn't insurance company friendly, then you haven't been paying
    attention.. No secret .. I am a democrat and I don't appreciate what this
    party is doing to our state and nation during the time they have been in
    office..

    You're Welcome
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 21, 2004
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  20. fullstate

    Bill Walker Guest

    What the hell are you talking about..??
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 21, 2004
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