Interesting viewpoint

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6246140.stm

The jury in the case of the cyclists who were killed on an icy road has
blamed (amongst other things) the driver's "inappropriate driving" in
the conditions.

No one seems to have questioned the wisdom of a group of cyclists being
on the road in icy conditions.

Comments?

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It seems to be politically incorrect to ever blame a cyclist for being
in the wrong.

 

The inquest has returned a 'narrative verdict'. I think that's legalese for
'it was an accident'.

I wonder how much the inquest has cost and the effect that its had on those
that had to give evidence - especially the chap whose decision it was not to
grit the road.

Tim

 

There's a dead child involved - 'nuff said.

Funny how the phrase 'failures by North Wales Police' turns up in yet
another news story though.

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Despite the comments I'm sure his defective tyres had some bearing.

 

Sorry, I started reading it and then saw "Anger over Polish breast
montage" in the 'most emailed' link so got a bit distracted:

"German politicians have condemned a computer generated photo of
Poland's leaders sucking the German Chancellor Angela Merkel's bare
breasts."

 

Just wait until I T-bone of the London's thousands of red light
jumping Lycra-clad twats....

 

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote;

Cycling for pleasure? Whatever next...
Ban them all... NOW!

 

in message <>,
TOG@toil,, ('')
wrote:

The cyclists didn't lose control of their bikes. They were riding along,
legally and safely, until some idiot with three bald tyres doing 50mph on
ice ploughed into them.

And /they're/ in the wrong? This from a /motorcyclist/ ?

If this loon, instead of ploughing into a group of cyclists out for a run,
had ploughed into a group of motorcyclists out for a run, would you be
saying 'oh, but the motorcyclists are to blame - they shouldn't have been
on the road'?

Those of us who go out on the roads without a ton of steel armour around us
ought to stick together at least a bit - we're all equally vulnerable.

 

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You'll like this then:

 

Thinking about it, there are no practical barriers, time any bicycle used on
the road had to wear a small rear number plate. They should pay a road tax
and carry 3rd party liability insurance. Helmets should deffo be compulsory.
Traffic violations, pavements/lights etc should carry the same financial
penalty as other vehicles.

 

I think the law should be waived for really slow, perfectly controlled
wheelies through any pedestrianised area.

 

The ice wasn't the motorists fault, more tyre tread doesn't help on ice, his
speed was not excessive on the road, how would he know ice was around.
Anyone could have been caught out. I feel sympathy for the cyclists and the
driver.

 

on any two wheeled appliance, agreed

 

I don't think motorcycle couriers ride too much differently.

Next time anyone calls for a bike courier, that's why your package
gets delivered so quickly.

Oh, and multistorey carpark downhilling is hilarious fun.

 

This idea was floated here in, oh, ~2002. Dunno why it never got off the
ground.

D.

 

Well he did lose control of the vehicle so yes, it was excessive.

The ice he had to scrape off his windscreen might just have been a bit
of a giveaway.

Anyone could have been caught out? Yeah, anyone who couldn't give a
**** about anyone else's safety could have been.

Chris

 

Quite a few bits of that had me wincing and saying 'Jeez!', but very
enjoyable.

 

The fact that he (according to his own testimony) had to spend five
minutes scraping ice off his car before he got into it was possibly a
small clue that there might be ice around.

But everyone else that drove round teh corner managed to do it without
losing control so badly they bounced off teh wall on teh other side
and ricocheted across teh road twice.