Interesting viewpoint

It might if you had to lick it off with your tongue. I think the court
omitted to ask that question, though


-dan

 

at slow speeds yes, the nub is the speed. you can manover a car on ice
that you'll struggle to stand on but only at very low speeds. at 50
wouldn't of required much ice to get the car sliding then it's weight
will do the rest.

it's the reason i favour small cars in snow and ice, they don't try to
carry on, if they do slide it's much more recoverable.

a 50mph on bike would be terrifing on ice but it wouldn't have the
weight that a car does.

roger

 

Err... yes there is. It's a lockable diff that isn't locked in
full-time 4WD mode but selecting part-time 4WD locks it.


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Should you want to do such a thing, why is that not reasonable?

But a lot less likely than faster will provide.

That wasn't what you asked though. You asked me how long it would take
at 10 mph to get between a couple of places, and how long I'd drive at
10 mph before speeding up.

A greater degree of caution is required if it's sub-zero to if it's over
zero, for the duration of the trip. That's all, nothing about requiring
anyone to go at 10 mph.

Pete.

 

He's got one - Ace is wrong. You can get Cherokees with two types of
transfer case - SelecTrac which has a centre diff allowing full-time
4WD, & CommandTrac which which hasn't got a diff & just locks the
driveshafts together, hence can only be used in 4WD on slippery
surfaces.

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Is this a grammar troll ?

 

but your explanation doesn't make sense - why does the manual (and
naggers in the car itself) tell me *to* use permanent 4x4 on the road
(which has the wheels in lock-step) rather than part-time 4x4?

 

OK, so that makes some sense.

"it's nature's way". I was faffing about in the RX-8 at the weekend,
in very wet conditions, and it's simply amazing what sort of corner
speeds in crap conditions that the Dynamic Stability Control will let
you achieve.

Fortunately, you can turn it off, and get the whole arrangement
sideways on the exit from roundabouts...

 

I'm sure the huge queue of traffic behind you could answer that
question.

Not necessarily, but even if that were true, it's a lot more likely
than 20mph will provide.

Err... oh never mind.

Which by definition means a lesser degree of caution is required if
it's over zero - meaning you're more likely to be caught out by a patch
of black ice in a shaded dip.

By all means carry on making your judgements based on the air
temperature when you get in the car. I'll stick to basing my judgements
on the actual road conditions tyvm.


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that would appear to be the case - ta.

 

Not for serious off-roading. Viscous diffs require a certain amount of
spin before they'll engage, which isn't necessarily A Good Thing.
Viscous diffs that can also be manually locked otoh would be ideal.

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Yes, yes, all right, I should have added the text 'when the mde to
which darsy was referring is selected'.


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Have you ever had even a vague connection with reality?

Phil

 

Pathetic! You don't think you're gonna get away with it that easily do
you?

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But since you've just done your "let's pluck an irrelevant condition out
of the air" trick again, that's not really an apposite point.

The *probablity* will go up, because the kinetic energy has gone up.

True, but, errrr, so what? The point is you should be more cautious
than you would otherwise be.

Oh deary me. I'm big enough to admitr I wasn't careful enough with my
wording, it's a shame you're daft enough to think facile nit-picking
helps. If it's /near/ zero. There, better?

What, like the chap who wiped out 4 people was doing?

Pete.

 

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A few years ago I took the thing to Tuscany, and was staying at a
complex of villas at the top of a very windey steep gravel and dirt
track - one of the most enjoyable bits of the whole holiday was
putting the thing into 4WD and driving up/down the hill at about 4
times the speed of everyone else staying there (almost exclusively
germans in Mercs). 4x4s rock.

On the other hand,, the last time I put it into FWD, it made a sort of
whining screech for a little bit, which then went away - is this
normal, or is it going to go bang?

 

What? This from the twat who was nit-picking about the 10 mph. You are
an exceptionally dull man.

 

Both. HTH.

 

Could be it got stuck in the no man's land between full & part-time
4WD. Mine's done it a couple of times, & I've had to find a bit of
grass to drive on while it sorts itself out.

A handy tip is don't try to select 4WD until you've done a few miles to
warm the transfer box oil up.

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