Is it me, or the bike? BMW K1200RS question

Not that big of an issue, really. The secret is to hit them such that
they fly clear of the road.
http://www.employees.org/~bhigh/oregon/IMG_0356.jpg
http://www.employees.org/~bhigh/oregon/IMG_0355.jpg
http://www.employees.org/~bhigh/oregon/IMG_0354.jpg

And the bike, of course:
http://www.employees.org/~bhigh/oregon/IMG_0353.jpg
http://www.employees.org/~bhigh/oregon/IMG_0352.jpg

Oh, by the way... I hit a deer on the 31st out on Highway 96. I was
going 85-ish into the turn and didn't have much chance to brake... Speed
at impact was about 70 mph.

-B

 

I gotta get me a Beemer!

 

But then I'd have to get rid of the little troll doll that sits on top
of the telelever. And it's not really fair to the left cylinder, which
took out a Dodge Durango in March.

Dunno. After I stopped, I waited for someone else in the group to show
up, took the pictures of my bike, and looped around to look at the
carnage.

Chris was immediately behind me and said that when he came around the
corner (more of a gentle sweeper) the deer was 3 feet off the ground, on
it's side, spinning. I caught a glimpse of the same in my mirror too.
After Bambi hit the ground, he spun another one or two times and slid to
a stop. That's why the blood is in those beautiful radial splatters.

Bambi was still breathing a bit when the group stopped but died shortly
afterwards. They shoved the body into the ditch but I'm not sure where
it was prior to that.

Raghu may be able to clarify too, he was there.

m4d sk1llz, yo. ph34r m3.

It's actually a good thing that I was out front, since any other bike in
the group probably would have been damaged more extensively.

The irony of the situation was about 0.5 miles down the road:
http://www.employees.org/~bhigh/oregon/IMG_0357.jpg

Things got worse, too:
http://www.employees.org/~bhigh/oregon/IMG_0376.jpg

-B

 

Were you on the ride with "DT" (silver SV1K)?

--
Mike

I didn't crash, there was a sudden burst of gravity.

icq - 219328929

 

OK, so you KILLED a FAWN instead of it's mother or father, which if
you had hit, you either wouldn't be around to talk shit or at the very
least in the friggin hospital. I find it both stupid and disgusting,
you posting these bloody photos and making light of both killing the
FAWN and a complete lack of responsibility for not seeing the animal
soon enough to avoid the strike. Hiting something means YOU f*cked up,
not the poor dumb animal.

Typical arrogant, moronic, BMW, unskilled rider.


Bob Nixon
Phoenix AZ
01 Sprint ST "RED"

 

Nope, I'm just not so cavalier about carelessly killing other living
beings, particular when visiting THIERS, not your home. Think about
it. What if your kids became fair game for speeders and we tore down
all those 15-25 MPH residential speed limits?

Last month I rode through nearly 2000 miles ( a fair amount in deer
country) at speeds well over 100MPH and never came close to hitting
any Deer, Elk, Antelope, dogs, wolves or even a squirrel. We did sight
deer and open range cattle as I have many, many times before but never
came close to hitting any. Why do you suppose that is?

1) Good Observation skills.
2) Not exceeding sight lines when you see those DEER signs.
3) 2) Good animal karma (respect for the life of other living beings).

Even in our local canyon carving haven, I've seen deer, dogs, chip
monks and have even avoided tarantulas that warm themselves on the
road in the mornings. Flying insects are unavoidable but that's it.
And I'm no tree hugger or vegetarian. I even respect the single shot,
painless kill of a skilled deer hunter as long as the meat is
respected and eaten. IMO, Brandon is acting as if this was some trophy
hunt and I hope he suffers some bad karma for his shitty attitude,
somewhere on down the road. If you DO catch my drift?


Bob Nixon
Phoenix AZ
01 Sprint ST "RED"

 

In 30+ years riding street bikes, I've pretty much seen it all. I did
hit a small deer once in a car as a 17 year old kid and felt bad
about it. It was night, he ran off and there was no blood trail to
follow. That was 1964 almost forty years ago. I believe I've learned
how to avoid running into stuff on the road since then but you're
right, shit does happen sometimes but no need to celebrate the event.

Fine but it doesn't warrant the bloody photos and comment about
"kicking" the dead fawn off the road. Face it, the comments were
stupid and macho, like that would engender support in a this knuckle
dragger's haven of a forum.

Bullshit! Look at the friggin title of this thread.

That comment was in anger, I regret it now.



Bob Nixon
Phoenix AZ
01 Sprint ST "RED"

 

Bob, you got lucky - there is some skill involved, but animals are
unpredictable and not always avoidable. I hit a squirrel a couple months ago
(IMHO, even cuter than the fawn, before I squashed it). It started running
across the road about 50 feet in front of me (35-40 mph) and would have been
fine, IF it had kept going. For some reason it decided to turn 90 degrees and
try to outrun me - needless to say that strategy didn't work very well for
the squirrel. By the time it changed direction there was nothing I could do
about it (if it had been a deer I would have slowed down when I first spotted
it, but a squirrel?).

just waiting for my aerostitch order to come in....

http://www.aerostich.com/isroot/riderwearhouse/Images/3458li.jpg

Bill

good advice: "if you can't eat it in one sitting, you probably shouldn't hit
it with your motorcycle" -unknown

 

KILL THEM DOE EYED FUCKERS BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO KILL AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

Charles

 

Ayup.

-B

 

No bunnies on that sheet. I'd need two deer, a squirrel,
two birds, and a rabbit.

S65~

 

Obviously the fawn fucked up. It was outside the area posted with deer
warning signs. And nobody forced you to look at the pics. After the
first one, you should've gotten a clue as to the nature of the rest of 'em.

I figured it was only a matter of time before someone who disliked his
post responded. Well, <shrug> that's the nature of a forum.

Personally, I would have gutted it and stuffed it into a saddlebag "for
later." Bambi on a spit, yum!

Now that you've expressed your feelings about BMW riders, do tell how
YOU would have handled this situation? Got any secrets to pass on about
being surprised by an animal while on the road? (20 mph is not an option)

BTW Brandon, I've ridden with a guy who centerpunched a cow with his
Beemer (aka "the War Machine") in Arizona. WM suffered some damage, but
the beef LOST!

barbz

 

You ever seen those fucking pedestrians that see you coming when they're
halfway across the street? You think, "I'll just slide around them," and
then you notice that blank, panicky look in their eyes. Slow down, don't
scare 'em, then as you approach, they suddenly spazz like a startled
deer and leap directly in front of you! I've had that happen more than
once. How can you be seen and not herd? (heh)

barbz

 

[...]

This is rich. Would your child FU if he or she got hit & killed by a
car at a busy intersection by an inattentive cage driver? Or your dog
escaped from your back yard and got hit & killed by same? And what if
said cage driver, whipped out their polaroid and snapped off some
trophy photos of your mutilated child or dog then posted them in the
local newspaper.

That I wouldn't have even minded. These jackasses just kicked it's
lifeless carcass off the road. That is, after they took joy in it's
last minutes of suffering.

Don't round blind turns at speeds that you cannot insure emergency
maneuvering. Bambi might just as well have been a 1000 lb elk or cage
doing a three point u-turn. Get the point? Brandon was just lucky and
then had the gall to gloat and laud the robustness of his caged sized
BMW pig bike.

[...]


Bob Nixon
Phoenix AZ
01 Sprint ST "RED"

 

You can certainly change the odds in your favor by being alert, aware of
the possible hazards and maintaining a wide field of view. On the other
hand, deer can be pretty unpredictable.

Bob, I'm not familiar with the kind of sightlines you have where you
ride. Where I ride, there are tall grasses and trees that can mask
deer, though not the kind of cover that was in Brandon's pictures. I
also ride and drive often in the eastern Sierra, where the sage brush
looks a lot like antlers. The deer are well adapted to blend into those
surroundings and they cross the road often while looking for water.

I didn't care for the photos either.

I've heard the phrase "hooved rats" before, but usually only from
motorcyclists. It seems as a group we tend to come up with derogatory
terms for the things that we're afraid of hitting. Examples include:

Deer = "hooved rats"
Cars = "cages"
SUV's = "SUV's"
Volvo = "ovloV"

It's funny sometimes, but it also bespeaks a mentality that says the
world is full of enemies. I'd rather think the world is full of people
(and critters) that are just trying to go about their business and
aren't very aware of motorcycles.

ab

 

in fact, yes, yes, and yes. ok, the last in is bad taste. btw, its 2003,
s/polaroid/digital camera/

 

Try gardening in a place with a lot of deer.

 

A few corrections for you:

GODDAMN FRICKEN hooved rats

These are driven by the everpresent "BRAINDEAD cager."

See above, except add "asswipe" or "douchebag."

See above, but change to "soccermom" or "witless ****."

Charles

 

If your child gets hit in or out of an intersection, then, yes he fucked
up. Just because you have the right of way, don't assume you can ignore
your own safety. My child will learn this. Plus, deer don't always use
intersections, dumbass.

I would have bit it in the neck and swallowed it's oozing, warm blood!
What's with people these days? We have incisors/canines for a REASON!

Yes, be careful on your bike (or even in the cage), but sometimes those
doe eyed fuckers are just asking for it.

Charles