Is it me?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Nigel Allen, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Nigel Allen

    Nigel Allen Guest

    or is it iinet's news server.

    Haven't seen any posts since 15th March.

    N/
     
    Nigel Allen, Mar 16, 2009
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    theo Guest

    It's not you.
     
    theo, Mar 16, 2009
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  3. Nigel Allen

    Yeebok Guest

    I disagree ;) I'm with iiNet and use their (free) news server.

    Thunderbird's picked up 35 dated 16/3 and 36 dated 17/3..

    Not saying it's you but my end of the same thing appears to have traffic OK.
     
    Yeebok, Mar 17, 2009
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  4. Nigel Allen

    Nev.. Guest

    It's probably not you, more likely your news reader. Nothing wrong with
    iinet's news feed. Try unsubscribing, and resubscribing. I'd remove
    all data files associated with the newsgroups in the middle of that too.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
    '08 DL1000K8
     
    Nev.., Mar 17, 2009
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    VTR250 Guest

    No NEW posts, but lots activity in older threads. I'm waiting for an
    on-topic question that I know the answer to, that hasn't already been
    answered correctly by someone else.
     
    VTR250, Mar 18, 2009
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  6. I dont feel Newsgroups have a long life for some aussie ISP's.. the
    would love to piss them off and not worry . Finding a good o/s one
    would be nice.

    Optus is hopeless with theirs
     
    Mister Biggus, Mar 18, 2009
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    Nev.. Guest

    ISPs should love newsgroup users. The software probably hasn't needed
    any maintanence since 2000. The physical news server hardware
    probably never need to be upgraded as the load would be decreasing not
    increasing. They use bugger all resources, they are probably more
    likely to be utilised by customers who are paying for high end ADSL
    speeds but use bugger all bandwidth.

    Most 'pre-netscape' ISPs would have grown their businesses around
    providing news, email and FTP clients so you'll probably find these
    ISPs still maintain a good news-service, but for 'post-Netscape' ISPs,
    like the big telcos, it would be a very low priority as the people
    running these companies are business people, not enthusiasts, so the
    focus is on shareholder returns. To address your specific issue, you
    already have an o/s ISP. Why not find a good local one instead? The
    smaller the better usually, but big ISPs which started small are
    probably a better choice than big ISPs which started big.

    Nev..
     
    Nev.., Mar 19, 2009
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  8. Nigel Allen

    G-S Guest

    Actually there are increasing numbers of newsgroup users who are only
    interested in newsgroups as a source of various binary files (Tv shows,
    movies etc) and those users place a huge load on NNTP servers.

    To such an extant that various companies have arisen purely to deal with
    this subgroup of newsgroup user and they sell subscriptions to various
    high performance, high retention news servers.

    Other ISP's (like Internode) have taken it upon themselves to provide
    access to these high performance newsgroup servers (at some significant
    cost to themselves) for their clients.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Mar 19, 2009
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    theo Guest

    Before we dropped ours we found we had one user, me, and the newsfeed
    was costing us $200 aa month. And those were all txt-only groups.

    Theo
     
    theo, Mar 19, 2009
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    GB Guest

    I was about to leap in to defend internode in response to the
    previous poster. Whilst internode does have some of the most
    fundamentally incompetent managers and accountants I've ever
    had the misfortune to deal with, their techs and their technical
    service is top notch.

    I very much appreciate their usenet service, but I do wonder at
    the appropriateness of supporting, much less hosting, the
    binaries and binaires[1] groups. It seems to me that hosting
    the pirates and their customers only serves to bring usenet
    into disrepute and to increase costs for everyone. Sans binaries,
    usenet is so low-bandwidth in modern terms that it is nearly
    free.

    I suppose the alternate reading of the situation might well be
    that the binaries are what keeps usenet alive for all of us.

    Food for thought.


    GB

    [1] Deliberate and traditional misspelling designed to bypass
    filters, also see 'pr0n'.
     
    GB, Mar 19, 2009
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  11. Pay less than $20 a year and use news.individual.de. It is bloody great.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Mar 19, 2009
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    lee Guest

    if you only want text NG/s, motzarella.org
    Free.
     
    lee, Mar 20, 2009
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