It's a knee...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by 'Hog, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    ....but not as we know it.

    2 off 2x1 cm bits of excess cartilage growth removed from knee. As well as
    numerous small shards. Apparently it can start spawning excess in response
    to damage. The Consultant commented he found less of a spare ball bearing
    (as I had complained of) and more of a large Flange. Back on crutches for a
    while though <sigh>. So that will be why I've been like a Haggis running
    around the mountain the wrong way.

    The bits removed and the photos taken inside the knee (I shall try and copy
    them for gory interest) didn't look anything like the representation
    generated by an MR scan. I'm a convert to merged MR/CT imaging now ok.

    Message to Simes: BUPA provided care rocked. Pre and post op care was spot
    on. The overnight room was much like a Travel Inn. Everything was spotless
    (and labelled as sanitised). The three nurses in attendance were competent,
    pleasant and cute. Food and drinks were provided as if by Room Service.
    They swabbed ME to make sure I would keeping up the 100% infection free
    status of their unit.

    That is the best £80/month I ever spent.
     
    'Hog, Oct 28, 2009
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    prawn Guest

    A large flange, eh? Is this one of those I'm changing my name posts?
     
    prawn, Oct 28, 2009
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  3. 'Hog

    Simes Guest

    I've stopped defending the NHS at the moment. They've fucked us over too
    many times in the last few weeks for me to think of any of them as any
    more than hopeless bodging fools.

    I don't like BUPA much (despite the good value and tip top care) as they
    removed my father from their books when he had cancer and would not
    assist him in anyway - despite him paying in for donkeys years and never
    even seeing a doctor.
     
    Simes, Oct 28, 2009
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  4. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    BUPA as with others are now nothing but an Insurance Company. Cunts in other
    words and to be treated with caution.
     
    'Hog, Oct 28, 2009
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  5. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    The concept is right enough. But the Govmint needs to be a universal insurer
    rather than a healthcare providor. The NHS is a great idea, unfortunately in
    theory and not as per human nature.
     
    'Hog, Oct 28, 2009
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  6. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    <Gowers at Prawn>
     
    'Hog, Oct 28, 2009
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    Cab Guest

    Heh.
     
    Cab, Oct 28, 2009
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    Steve Guest

    As you say Bupa are just an insurer , they sold their Hospitals some
    time ago.
    Which Hospital were you at - Nuffield?

    Steve
     
    Steve, Oct 28, 2009
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  9. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    Yes, in York

    They didn't sell all the hospitals I believe, but most
     
    'Hog, Oct 28, 2009
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    Steve Guest

    Steve, Oct 28, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    'Hog, Oct 28, 2009
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  12. 'Hog

    Steve Guest

    Odd - they sell them all in 2007 and buy that one in 2008.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7300673.stm
    £90 million seems a lot seeing as Nuffield sold 11 hospitals to GHG
    for £140 million 6 months earlier.
    I'm guessing the Kensington location is large part of its value...

    Steve
     
    Steve, Oct 28, 2009
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  13. 'Hog

    Simes Guest

    Again, worryingly (for us both) I agree. National Insurance should be
    just that.
     
    Simes, Oct 28, 2009
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  14. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    Though privately provided healthcare would (does) need a fearsome regulator
    and police force to set and ensure standards. And rates.

    And contrary to what a lot of public and political opinion says, Consultants
    are the LAST group you want running the show.
     
    'Hog, Oct 28, 2009
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  15. 'Hog

    Simes Guest

    Indeed. It still makes me laugh that the govt (bless their clueless
    little socks) asked that idiot Dharzi to look into improving GP
    services. He's never been a GP ever - he's a surgeon at a large acute.

    TBH they'd have got some better ideas by asking a milkman to do the
    report. Shame that isn't what they wanted, but rather a patsy to write a
    report to justify the partial privatisation of GP services to make money
    for the companies that they have interests in.

    In English this means it costs a million quid a year for an 8 doctor GP
    practice, which includes the doctors pay, versus 2 million quid for a 3
    doctor practice at a Dharzi centre, where the profit is the same as total
    cost of the 8 doctor practice. Private is clearly best, comrades, it
    costs so much less than Publicly funded general practice.
     
    Simes, Oct 28, 2009
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  16. 'Hog

    Ace Guest

    Agreed. The Swiss seem (from my position as taxpayer, insurance payer
    and patient) to have got it about right. Last time I did the sums the
    cost per population was in the same ballpark as that of the NHS.
    Christ yes. Bunch of lazy, wine-swilling, golf-playing layabouts.
     
    Ace, Oct 29, 2009
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  17. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    Well no, but they are human and utterly (financially) self serving. Their
    decisions are crucial in evolving the Clinical Pathways (obviously) but
    decisions about how many hours they work and their patient volumes by time
    need to be imposed. As do their fee structures and a UK structure on how
    much NHS time they should do to be granted a licence to practice Privately.
     
    'Hog, Oct 29, 2009
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  18. 'Hog

    Simes Guest

    The funny thing is how all the trusts bow and scrape to the consultants
    and let them do things their own way - regardless of whether it's in the
    interests of the patients or the tax payers.

    I keep saying that we should stand up to them and tell *them* what to
    do. It's not as if they can get jobs anywhere else. The NHS is pretty
    much the only show in town if you're a doctor.
     
    Simes, Oct 29, 2009
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  19. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    If you are a specialist Consultant with a reputation you can just have a
    private practice.

    The best of them bring in a lot of patients for a Trust, so of course
    they have power. It needs a national contract where to be in private
    practice you need to give (say) 2/3 of your time to the National
    service. At an agreed rate and at the same level of productivity as the
    private sector.

    I know here Consultants who accept (say) 2 patients in a half day. In
    their private clinic they will see up to 6. It is plain wrong.

    Of some will threaten to FRO abroad. So try not to slam the door on the
    way out folks.

    This applies the same to Dentists BTW.

    It is all complicated by levels of competency naturally. If I have a
    broken arm, or a particular Cancer, there will be someone in particular,
    after research, that I will want to see.
     
    'Hog, Oct 29, 2009
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  20. 'Hog

    Simes Guest

    Although - there is not enough work in the private sector for them all
    full time.
    i.e. they should do as they are told - they are skilled employees - just
    like the rest of us.
    Of course it is - and a lot of them will treat NHS patients like scum,
    then spend the afternoon sucking the knobs of the same patients who can
    pay privately.
    If I have a broken arm I hope it will heal with just a cast. I don't
    want to end up like you lot.
     
    Simes, Oct 29, 2009
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