It's Aliiive!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip Luscher, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Guzzi V11.

    I suspect the battery's probably tired because it churned very slowly
    despite a recent spell on the Accumate, but after only three or so
    seconds the bike coughed. On the second press of the starter it
    rumbled into life almost immediately. The joys of FI bikes.

    Here's hoping I've actually fixed the original fault: there was never
    a real "Aha!" moment, but I'm fairly sure it was a combination of
    buggered oil filter, ancient oil and a badly fitted & warped oil
    filter screen that between them damaged the oil pump.
     
    Pip Luscher, Aug 4, 2010
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    JB Guest

    Great news. If you don't mind saying, what was the total parts list/bill?
    I hate it when there is no obvious fault found during a repair/rebuild.
    Good to hear it's alive again though.
    JB
     
    JB, Aug 5, 2010
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  3. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    I'd put it at around 700 quid, though that doesn't include oil and the
    oil filter, which I was just about to replace anyway because a service
    was due.

    Parts:

    1 oil pump
    1 camshaft
    4 tappets
    4 big-end half-shells
    4 big-end bolts
    6 flywheel mounting bolts
    2 piston circlips
    1 oil pickup mesh screen
    2 crank seals
    Assorted gaskets

    That did include a couple of things I replaced 'because the engine was
    in bits', like crank seals, though I didn't replace absolutely
    everthing that I could have. I bought new big-end bolts and flywheel
    bolts when in poorer circumstances I might have reused them, but given
    that the previous year's model had a recall due to big-end failures
    then I wasn't about to take chances.
     
    Pip Luscher, Aug 5, 2010
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  4. Not bad, IMHO.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 5, 2010
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    JB Guest

    All 4 followers knackered then? How bad was the old cam? Was it worth
    getting resurfaced/reground with a more 'interesting' profile?
    I hadn't heard about the recall issues. Anything terminal to do with big-end
    or main bearings on a Guzzi gets _really_expensive very quickly as you know.

    As TOG said, that's not a bad price. And you know it's been done properly.
    God knows how much adealer would have charged.

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 6, 2010
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  6. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Well, all four valve clearances went out in only a few dozen miles.
    The noise was pretty raucous and the faces of three of the tappets had
    circular scuff marks. The fourth, the RH inlet one, had a clearance of
    a couple of mm by the time I got home. The hardeded tappet face had
    been worn away right through to the soft metal beneath, resulting in a
    dished surface with burrs round the edge.

    The camshaft was relatively unscathed but wear marks were visible on
    all lobes. It can almost certainly be reground.

    As the bike has been generally neglected and is hardly concours, it
    really wasn't worth wasting effort on adding tuning goodies, though I
    did consider buying a slightly lumpier cam. Really, if I hadn't spent
    so much effort on it already just to get it to a reasonably rideable
    state, I'd have seriously considered breaking it for spares.

    Besides, I always have the Tuono if I want
    arm-stretching-front-wheel-skipping fun.
    I think it may only have affected certain batches (there was also a
    gearbox recall for, I think, 2000 models). There was always the worry
    that an older engine from leftover stock had made it onto a later
    bike. However, it *looks* like the earlier 2000 engines at least
    didn't have the cast-in lugs for attaching the lower frame bracing
    bars, which mine has.
    Well, I'd guess that a big bearing failure on any engine would be
    expensive!
    I *hope* properly. I did reuse the original main bearings as they
    seemed to be dimensionally OK, though the surface appearance wasn't
    perfect. I had to measure the clutch end main journal with a vernier
    caliper because my bigger micrometer doesn't go that wide, so only got
    a rough idea of its fit, but it seemed OK.

    Oh, there were a few additional costs I'd forgotten to add: I had to
    make up a clutch centering tool, plus I got through most of a small
    tube of Loctite and I had to carry out surgery on the collector box on
    that last ride: an internal plate decided to break loose, too. Not my
    best bit of welding.
     
    Pip Luscher, Aug 6, 2010
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