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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Hog, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. Hog

    platypus Guest

    Qui bono? The manufacturers of catalytic converters, Johnson Matthey for
    instance.
     
    platypus, Sep 21, 2006
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  2. Hog

    DR Guest

    IANALBIASLAITYFT "cui bono", not "qui bono".
     
    DR, Sep 21, 2006
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  3. Hog

    platypus Guest

    Probably.
     
    platypus, Sep 22, 2006
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  4. Hog

    platypus Guest

    Anything over 1500kg DIN kerb weight governed to 55mph max.
     
    platypus, Sep 22, 2006
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  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    <looks at BlingMobile>

    Oi! Fekkorf.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer As featured in
    Performance Bikes

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 22, 2006
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  6. Hog

    platypus Guest

    It goes over 55?
     
    platypus, Sep 22, 2006
    #46
  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    Oh yes. Quite considerably.

    There's a modicum of screaming involved, and I seem to be followed by an
    air ambulance whenever I attempt it, but it really, really does.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer As featured in
    Performance Bikes

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 22, 2006
    #47
  8. Hog

    muddy cat Guest

    Some days I can't see the mountains that are only 10 miles away due to
    the smog.
     
    muddy cat, Sep 22, 2006
    #48
  9. Hog

    Lozzo Guest

    muddy cat says...
    Move to a less pikey area
     
    Lozzo, Sep 22, 2006
    #49
  10. Hog

    muddy cat Guest

    I'm saving up so I can move next door to darsy.
     
    muddy cat, Sep 22, 2006
    #50
  11. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddy cat
    <drafts letter to Home Office>

    Fucking foreigners, coming over here, forming ghettos.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer As featured in
    Performance Bikes

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 22, 2006
    #51
  12. Jesus Fucking Christ, you don't have post some shite.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Sep 22, 2006
    #52
  13. Stop smoking and open your windows.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Sep 22, 2006
    #53
  14. Hog

    muddy cat Guest

    <drafts letter to Homeland Defense Department>

    Fucking foreigners, coming over here, riding harleys.
     
    muddy cat, Sep 22, 2006
    #54
  15. Hog

    muddy cat Guest

    :p No windows on the bike.
     
    muddy cat, Sep 22, 2006
    #55
  16. Hog

    platypus Guest

    cwt?
     
    platypus, Sep 22, 2006
    #56
  17. Hog

    Gas Giant Guest


    It might be more accurate to say that the reduction of NOx in the cat
    requires an oxygen-defficient input stream. Which effectively means that
    the stream must have a surplus of unburned hydrocarbons. Which will be the
    case when the engine is burning a stoichiometric mixture (or richer).


    If the cat *didn't* require such an input, then why is it so important for
    fuel-injection systems to maintain the mixture so close to stoichiometric?
    If it were possible for the cat to function with much leaner, or much richer
    exhaust, then why bother going to all the trouble to design such precise
    fuel-metering systems? The requirement to keep the mixture so precisely
    centred on stoichiometric is the primary reason that fuel-injection has
    become so ubiquitous.


    A lean-running engine will typically produce higher NOx levels than a
    rich-running engine. Consider what happens when the cat is fed the
    exhaust from a lean-running engine. The NOx levels remain high. The cat
    does nothing to reduce them.


    A rich-burning engine produces lower NOx levels, but higher levels of CO and
    unburned HCs. Again, the cat does nothing to reduce them.


    It's only at that "sweet-spot", when the engine is running on a
    stoichiometric mixture, that the cat works efficiently. The fuel mixture is
    kept "wobbling" slightly around that sweet-spot by a feedback loop, with an
    oxygen-sensor in the raw exhaust stream measuring how much free oxygen there
    is. If there's too much oxygen, the engine must be running lean, so the
    system tells the injectors to remain open a little bit longer. If there's
    not enough oxygen, the system instructs the injectors to shut off sooner.


    What does running lean actually do to the cat? The various reactions that
    take place in the converter require oxygen, and ideally that should come
    from the NOx. If there's an excess of free oxygen in the exhaust, that will
    be used to oxidize the CO and HC, in preference to the oxygen that's tied up
    in NOx. The reduction of NOx doesn't happen. So run lean, get lower HC and
    CO, but more NOx.


    And if there's not enough oxygen (ie, engine is running rich), the HCs don't
    burn. And the oxid(iz)ation of CO to produce CO2 doesn't happen either. So
    run rich, get more CO and HCs.


    Lean-burn engines require a different kind of cat, one that accumulates the
    NOx. And then, periodically, the system squirts a little extra fuel into
    the engine, making it temporarily run rich, so that the cat can get the
    right mixture to reduce all the accumulated NOx.


    Stoichiometric is the air/fuel ratio that is necessary (in theory) for
    perfect combustion. No engine will produce perfect combustion. But a
    well-designed system (i.e., engine plus cat) will produce something very
    close to it.
     
    Gas Giant, Sep 22, 2006
    #57
  18. Mmmfffff!

    But the point remains.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 22, 2006
    #58

  19. Wish you could find a still pic. I'm reminded of that lovely shot you
    put up, a few months back, of you in your tender youth faffing with some
    old steam loco.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 22, 2006
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  20. Hog

    sweller Guest

    This one?
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/no7vordb.jpg

    I found this rather poor quality scan of me driving:
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/vor_driver.jpg

    I have it in Paint Shop Pro format but can no longer open it - can anyone
    convert it to jpg? (hopefully it's better quality)
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/vor_driver.psp

    I'm guessing it's from 1987; I seem to have lost the pack with all the
    originals from that era.
     
    sweller, Sep 22, 2006
    #60
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