Yes he won the match. To me, he did better with his sarcastic retaliation up against all' odds, in regard to defending the Hawley vs. Metric Motorcycle contest. IOW (in other words) he out pissed the crowd of wanna be HD owners and riders, including yours truly. Elbert and Brain (I mean Brian <g>) can disagree if they desire, and practice after school, and continue to play against JC, on here, about how bad those ole Harleys sound, and look, and how they are over priced, if they wanna. But I am bowing out. I was a goodun', but JC's Harley attitude was all American and he wuz relentless,too! And he even pretty well played by his self. Oh, yes Wacko and Big Kane helped but he did just as well without them two. It wuz too much for this ole Honda Ronda dude, I admit. My Hell'Mets off to ya. (fridndly Grin here) ~~~~~~~~Bjay~~~~~~~~~