Job Interviews

If I was hiring a sysadmin it would not matter whether she turned up in a
skirt or slacks or an evening dress or jeans and bike boots, with helmet of
coarse.
The job position would not depend on dress sense

When I was hiring staff, it wouldn't matter whether it was a female or a
male applying for the job
I looked at all their qualifications and their past work history etc.
and then I would hire the female with the biggest tits.

 

Lycra ?
eewww mine eyes mine eyes

 

If I was hiring a sysadmin or other serious propeller head role, I
would seriously be concerned about the candidate who turned up in an
expensive suit or lipstick,skirt and heels. The immediate question I'd
be pursuing is " is this what you really want to do, will you stay
more than 5minutes"

It's why I carefully said appropriate dress for the role. Over dressed
can be a negative signal just as much as under dressed. Appropriate is
the key word.

JL

 

So, would you hire a guy for a sysadmin role who turned up in a $3,000
dollar Armani suit without any further investigation ?

JL

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:21:24 -0700 (PDT)

I wouldn't, because someone dressed like that is going to be worried
about lifting floor tiles and crawling underneath (which isn't in my
current job description but doesn't mean I haven't had to do it) and
because someone dressed like that is almost certainly not going to be
a good cultural fit.

Better to over than underdress for an interview but only to a point...

Note I don't make the "Does someone who wears expensive suits have
any technical smarts" argument because I know a very good sysadmin
who wears bespoke tailoring. I think he does it to mess with
people's minds as much as because he likes to look good...

I have no idea if he turned up to an interview in such gear though!

Zebee

 

I didn't have any problem turning up at the North Sydney Hilton in my
wet weather gear. The doorman carried my paniers in for me. But I had
to park the bike myself.

Theo

 

You need to get out more.

Theo

 

By the time Gen Y are in that position they will have already sold out
and will be wearing whatever the establishment deems suitable for those
positions.

It's called middle age


G-S

 

I went to work in lycra every day for 11 years but wore a 3 piece
tailored suit the rest of the day. I also did a lot of job interviews,
both male and female, and no-one ever turned up in lycra because they
wouldn't have got the job. Interviews are about first impressions. The
interviewer has already read your resume and you may already have been
shortlisted by an agency. What the interviewer wants to find out is
how you will fit in with the existing staff so initial conformity is
pretty essential. A red cocktail dress won't get you the job. The
interviewer, in my case anyway, is not interested in how good you are
at the job, they have read your resume! They want to see what you look
like, how neat or sloppy you are dressed, and to engage you in
conversation to find out how outgoing or reticent you are. It's all
about personality fit-in. A young lady I hired three years ago arrived
at the interview in a plain blouse and skirt, wasn't wearing any make-
up, and flat shoes. She had a great outgoing personality, was easy to
engage in conversation, and listened attentively. She got the job.

She would have stood no chance with George. She had mini-titties.

Theo

 

I don't know about you but I wouldn't call a teaching job a 'suit and
tie' type environment (certain private schools excepted).

I'd in fact go so far as to suggest that public schools constitute a
very casual dress environment and yet motorcycling gear is STILL
considered not acceptable by some.

I have been told (when attending a meeting about buses that were
carrying students) that turning up on a motorbike sent the wrong message
to students and might in fact encourage them to take up motorcycling,
and yes this was by education department staff attending that meeting.

When I pointed out that motorcycling wasn't against the law and was a
legitimate mode of transport and asked if they had a policy of
discouraging motorcycle use they hummed and ummmmed and eventually they
said they had a policy 'not to encourage it'.

When I asked why they were even more evasive and I got no clear answer.

They were somewhat upset when I declined to agree not to turn up to
further meetings by motorbike and I wasn't invited back again. That bus
project didn't get far though (since we are the only operator in the
area [1]


G-S

[1] OK so that's a little petty but they deserved it.

 

I had a look at the site - they look great, but I couldn't find any short
enough (story of my life!!!) Would be the same story as my Ixon pants - the
legs are about 3 inches too long for me. It said on the aerostich site that
they can do alterations for a more custom fit - for another $60...

Will need a better paid job, ha ha!

Thanks for the heads-up though Zebee. Will bookmark the site.

betty

 

Only if he had big tits.

Theo

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:00:06 +1100

yeah, I paid the extra for the shortening. Fit nicely now.

Zebee

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:59:28 -0700 (PDT)

The senior academic who used to ride to UNSW then
wander around half the day still in his lycra kit did change into
something else if he was lecturing.

Mainly because the students got distracted...

Zebee

 

We had showers and change-rooms. I felt the need for a shower when I
got to work, especially if it was raining.

Theo

 

All true and I agree, I was just wondering if GWF was going to
contradict himself.

<grin> And that's exactly why I didn't say I wouldn't hire him, I'd
just be asking questions

Pretty unusual though.

JL

 

Meeting with several consultants and a posse of representatives of a
Senior Government Agency. They're all in suits and pressed shirts and I
show up in jeans and a grey m/c jacket with a black AGV under my arm.
Lead representative of the Senior Government Agency is perfectly pressed
and preened ($3500 suit, $800 tie, you know the type) and he's staring at
me like I'm something that crawled out from under a rock.

He's about my height, slim, with curly blond hair, so I decide to call
him on it. Turns out he owns a Yamahondawakuzi CBXZ1000RRZXV that's
practically new, and it hasn't been out of the garage in weeks because he
hasn't had time; he's staring at me because he's *jealous*.

Made my day

 

Only if he had big tits.

Theo

***************

Bugger you Theo
Now I have to clean down my keyboard

 

There has been a huge cultural change. In the 70's and early 80's all
the computer techs I knew wore suits, probably more than half bespoke
tailored. I still have one in my wardrobe. I also regularly met techs
from other computer companies through my membership of the Australian
Service Managers Association. They were called Computer Engineers by
their employers and also got the floor tiles up.

Agreed.

Theo

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:26:17 -0700 (PDT)

This was an academic.

Trust me, universities are Different.

I am surprised no one's done a survey of the number of high functioning
autistics in academic ranks of the science depts of sandstone
universities, bet it's well above the population average.

Zebee