I'm reading through [URL="http://www.howwedrive.com"]www.howwedrive.com[/URL] which has a bunch of fascinating things. Got me thinking... how do you judge your speed? What cues do you use to determine how fast you are going? How do you know if your speed is changing? I had an odd experience some years ago riding Mum's V50. The speedo was drastically over-reading, which I didn't know. So when it said I was doing 70kmh, I was closer to 60kmh. I was riding it on a country road, meaning no other traffic to cue from, and a road I wasn't familiar with. I was able to keep it at a steady speed but I didn't really know what that speed was. With a working speedo, I find that I set the speed and then I work on not changing it by much. I mostly use sensory cues for that, the feel of the bike's motor, the feel of the air, the street furniture in peripheral vision, but mostly the feel of the bike. I like to keep it where it's purring along at revs comfortably above lugging, but low enough that it's feeling like it is hardly working. I don't think I'm much good at saying "I'm going this fast" but I do seem to be able to keep the bike at the speed I decide with few if any glances at the speedo. I have to check the speedo when starting up from the lights, but seldom after that. I suspect a lot of this is familiarity with the bike, and some of it's the bike itself. The Norge has decent sensory feedback, I can tell what the motor is up to without seeing the tacho. And being a bike has to be part of it too. I drove a modern car the other day and found it very insulating and hard to judge speed changes in. Zebee