judging speed

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. I'm reading through www.howwedrive.com which has a bunch of
    fascinating things.

    Got me thinking... how do you judge your speed? What cues do you use
    to determine how fast you are going? How do you know if your speed is
    changing?

    I had an odd experience some years ago riding Mum's V50. The speedo
    was drastically over-reading, which I didn't know. So when it said I
    was doing 70kmh, I was closer to 60kmh.

    I was riding it on a country road, meaning no other traffic to cue
    from, and a road I wasn't familiar with. I was able to keep it at a
    steady speed but I didn't really know what that speed was.

    With a working speedo, I find that I set the speed and then I work on
    not changing it by much. I mostly use sensory cues for that, the feel
    of the bike's motor, the feel of the air, the street furniture in
    peripheral vision, but mostly the feel of the bike. I like to keep it
    where it's purring along at revs comfortably above lugging, but low
    enough that it's feeling like it is hardly working.

    I don't think I'm much good at saying "I'm going this fast" but I do
    seem to be able to keep the bike at the speed I decide with few if any
    glances at the speedo. I have to check the speedo when starting up
    from the lights, but seldom after that.

    I suspect a lot of this is familiarity with the bike, and some of it's
    the bike itself. The Norge has decent sensory feedback, I can tell
    what the motor is up to without seeing the tacho.

    And being a bike has to be part of it too. I drove a modern car the
    other day and found it very insulating and hard to judge speed changes
    in.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jun 9, 2009
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    gwd Guest

    Some cars more so than others. I had a Magma work car with no cruise
    control. The thing was so slippery and quiet that it was a chore to
    drive at any fixed speed. So in my case at least, it seems I rely on
    audio cues reinforced by a general "feel". As far as judging speed is
    concerned, visual cues are on the bottom of my list.
     
    gwd, Jun 9, 2009
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    theo Guest

    Those things just seem to ooze along.

    Theo
     
    theo, Jun 10, 2009
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    Nigel Allen Guest

    I have the same problem with my car - a Renault Clio Sport Cup. If
    you're not that familiar with it (as some friends have found out to
    their cost) you "think" you're doing around 70 and wonder why everyone
    else is driving so slowly. Very much the "stealth" speed ticket. There
    simply isn't enough sensory feedback.

    My old Mk 1 Cooper S on the other hand......

    N/
     
    Nigel Allen, Jun 10, 2009
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  5. Zebee Johnstone

    gwd Guest

    Yes, and they epitomise the reason God gave us cruise control (the
    real ones Clem, not throttle locks:)). Why there was none on my model
    is a mystery. Someone tried to install an after market thing, but it
    was pretty well useless.
     
    gwd, Jun 10, 2009
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    theo Guest

    Whoosh.

    Am I being too subtle?

    Theo
     
    theo, Jun 10, 2009
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    gwd Guest

    Err... well yes, really. I mean movement of the subject (albeit
    typographically incorrect) vehicle type and the movement of molten
    basalt can both sit comfortably with the verb in your comment...
    I'll just go away and be embarrassed now!
     
    gwd, Jun 10, 2009
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    x.x Guest

    I followed u
     
    x.x, Jun 10, 2009
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  9. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:43:00 GMT
    I had one of those... although downhill and me crawling behind the
    clocks the speedo wound off the dial at 140!

    What the *actual* speed was....

    Zebee
    - still wishing there was room in the shed for the Infamous MZ
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jun 10, 2009
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  10. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:43:00 GMT
    couldn't reply to your email Jordan, got this:

    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:



    Technical details of permanent failure:
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    recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for
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    Fix and resend...

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jun 10, 2009
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    knobdoodle Guest

    I had this problem when I got my first Trump Triple in 1995. I got
    booked fo 130 in a 100 zone and I kept finding myself drifting up to
    much faster speeds than I was intending. It took me a while (and some
    help) to realise that I had been unconsciously using the 4cyl
    100-110kph, 4000rpm "vibes" as my cue for highway cruising and I
    must've been increasing speed "looking" for them on the silky-smooth
    Triple.
    Once I (re)learned to watch the speedo instead I had no further
    trouble.
     
    knobdoodle, Jun 11, 2009
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  12. Zebee Johnstone

    knobdoodle Guest

    I hear they're really hot!
     
    knobdoodle, Jun 11, 2009
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    Peter Wyzl Guest

    I hear they're really hot!
    --
    Clem
    (Jumping on the joke long after it was funny)

    It can't have been funny or it would have generated the usual eruptions of
    bad puns....

    P
     
    Peter Wyzl, Jun 11, 2009
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    Toosmoky Guest

    Don't we all come here to vent?...
     
    Toosmoky, Jun 11, 2009
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  15. Zebee Johnstone

    Boxer Guest

    Not me I just go with the flow.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Jun 12, 2009
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  16. Zebee Johnstone

    Boxer Guest

    Are you trying to crater disturbance?



    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Jun 12, 2009
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  17. Zebee Johnstone

    Diogenes Guest

    Venting is good... ;-)


    =================

    Onya bike

    Gerry
     
    Diogenes, Jun 12, 2009
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  18. Zebee Johnstone

    Toosmoky Guest

    Hey, I'm a lava, not a fighter...
     
    Toosmoky, Jun 12, 2009
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  19. Zebee Johnstone

    gwd Guest

    It was a typo, I tell you! These puns are not my fault!...
     
    gwd, Jun 12, 2009
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  20. Zebee Johnstone

    GB Guest

    wrote in 4ax.com:
    Well you're an igneous old fool, aren't you!


    GB
     
    GB, Jun 12, 2009
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