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Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by zip954, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. In a way you could see the travel as work related because you wouldnt be
    doing that trip if you werent going to or returning from work.

    A friend got a workers comp payout for a bike smash (Ducati Darmah) that put
    him in a wheelchair years ago even though he'd been to the pub and had a few
    to drink as it was his regular trip home every Thursday after work to stop
    at the pub with workmates then continue on home. The smash was caused by
    road conditions(diesel spills and heavy rain), the drinking had nothing to
    do with it, the police even said that. Took 10 years for the insurance
    company to be willing to settle the case though.

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Oct 13, 2006
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  2. zip954

    Mad-Biker Guest

    works both ways actually,

    such as under the rail act, a railway employee has to have a blood alcohol
    level of 0, even if on their way to work on foot... thats all railway
    employee's
     
    Mad-Biker, Oct 13, 2006
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  3. zip954

    G-S Guest

    I'm not arguing that it isn't 'work related' I'm just arguing that it isn't
    (in a Venn diagram sort of sense) part of 'work' it is part of the greater
    area 'work related'.

    And the justification for the costing system for Workcover premiums relies
    on employers controlling risk factors in the workplace and rewards or
    punishes them depending upon how well they (and the greater industry they
    are a part of) perform at that task.

    When you include travel to and/or from work you are including actions and
    responsibilities ourside the direct (or indirect) control of the employer.

    That has a couple of implications... either you need to make that journey
    subject to a set of work controls; something I am uncomfortable with as
    peoples unpaid time should be their own to use as they see fit as far as
    possible. Some employers have never the less done this to varying degrees.

    Or alternatively you need to change the costing structure for Workcover so
    that accidents (incedents) that happen in that travel period aren't
    reflected by adjustments in the premium cost, if neither is done then the
    justification for the costing structure is seriously flawed.

    I wouldn't have a problem with the government reintroducing cover for that
    period of travel as such, I just (to paraphrase myself) have a problem with
    being penalised for actions which no reasonable person would believe we can
    control.

    It isn't as if Workcover is a no fault system after all... if it was we
    wouldn't be having this discussion.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 13, 2006
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  4. zip954

    Nev.. Guest

    It's not up to the business to determine which insurance scheme pays his
    claim, so it's not an option at all.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 13, 2006
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  5. zip954

    Mad-Biker Guest

    what,

    making sure your workers arnt fatigued,
    monitoring their conditions at work, ie, not turning up pissed, hung over
    etc isnt your responcbility,

    although i must agree, an empler cant take responcibility for any dangers
    they have on the way to work. not like they are in controlof them..

    but in saying that i fi have a crash at work, or even get into a blue with
    an unhappy customer off duty, should work cover be involved?
     
    Mad-Biker, Oct 13, 2006
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  6. zip954

    atec77 Guest

    Duty of care , I think there is some elements which make it so .
    regular route to and from
    two questions there .

    yes to the first and no to the 2nd
     
    atec77, Oct 13, 2006
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  7. Yep, the bloke that fell asleep behind the wheel and rolled his Escort into
    my front yard(when i used to live in Guildford) after working a double shift
    would certainly call the accident work related.

    For me it was a hell of a way to get woken up, luckiliy he was uninjured.

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Oct 14, 2006
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  8. zip954

    Boxer Guest

    Had a similar thing happen a few weeks ago on a Friday night a car ended up
    taking out a large sandstone boulder in my front yard, he stopped on top of
    the boulder with all 4 wheels 2 feet in the air. He could not work out why
    he could not reverse back onto the road.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Oct 14, 2006
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  9. zip954

    Nev.. Guest

    For him too, no doubt.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 14, 2006
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  10. zip954

    Nev.. Guest

    Photos ?

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 14, 2006
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  11. zip954

    Boxer Guest

    Sure where do you want them.

    It was at night so the flash did not do the Sudanese driver justice.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Oct 14, 2006
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  12. zip954

    Mad-Biker Guest

    Well im pretty sure it does cover me, because under common law, i am a
    police officer until im told im not, so technically i never leave work!

    in anycase, its directly related to work, hence why we can still charge
    people with assaulting a police officer, even if im off duty if its related
    to work..

    and yes, it happens a fair bit..
     
    Mad-Biker, Oct 14, 2006
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